Brass Eagle announces settlement of Odyssey lawsuit

[krafty]

I wonder if this has anything to do with the new Rip Drive from Odyssey?

I do find it difficult to believe that Odyssey would settle a lawsuit that required them to completely shut down their product line (considering the TSA isn't available yet).

I've already decided my Revvy is getting sold. I don't think I'll be buying or supporting BE anymore.

[halB]

until any of u patent anything on ur own, or produce something u take pride in, i think u naysayers should leave the legal world of patent law to the big boys.

[Muzikman]

halB,

Hmmm...I have two patents pending right now. So can I speak? (sorry, neither one is paintball related)

[manike]

Oh, and I have patents also

[shartley]

I have no patents, no patents at all!

Oh, I mean patience, sorry. But that works too!

[Kevmaster]

Um...what is BE doing wrong here? They patented an item. Anoter company infringed that patent. They sued for intelectual theft...what is wrong with that? Thats self preservation.

[demonguy8]

Originally posted by halB
until any of u patent anything on ur own, or produce something u take pride in, i think u naysayers should leave the legal world of patent law to the big boys.

or buy it from someone else, make a killing on it, and get mad when somone who operates outside of 99% of your target market makes a similar arguably supperior product....

It IS at the heart a business thing though and although I dont personally like it I cant disagree that it is legal and completely fair game.The thing that makes me mad is the 4 year production ban. The lack of halos being made is too me a HUGE blow to loader progress in the sport and is a shamefull request by BEs lawyers..

Perhaps somone with enough cash to go to court could/ should sue BE for monopolizing the HIGH end loader industry?... Microsoft had monopoly proceedings over much less of a stranglehold over an industry that BE has.. Then again maybe noone cares cuz even as the most profitable paintball company, theyre still only pulling in a fraction of the $$ that microsoft was...

Edit: odysey was stupid imho for allowing BE to resue them.. If I was BE I would already be making arrangements to resue...

[manike]

Whoah there Kev. Where does it say that someone infringed BE's patents? It doesn't.

I believe if there was a valid enforceable case then BE would not have settled.

I'm still waiting for any information to confirm what you posted above. It's not been officially released by BE or Odyssey so there is no confirmation of the four years that you state. Did you get that from a phone conversation or an e-mail?

You would have though if it was true that it would have been included on the BE website along with the talk of 'undisclosed sums'.

There was no verdict and therefore no infringement. We don't know the settlement or undisclosed sum it could have just been arbitrary...

[Clare]

Oh, and I have patents also

sleep typing, aye!!

[PolishSausage]

In my personal opinon the line on infringing on patents isn't defined well enough, similar to the lines you cross when you plagerize.

Example: The english boards states that you plagiarize when you "borrow" an idea without citing it, unless it common knowledge(in more than 3 sources). So they now expect you to cite every idea you have unless you take the time to find out weather or not it is in 3 or more sources. Makes little sense to me.

It's the same thing with patents. There is no clear line as to what is an infrignment. If I create a motor that sucks in air and blows it back out, have I now violated a patent copyright of a Black and Decker leaf blower? Of course not, its rediculous to even think like that. I really don't see why BE would persue a case like that, or why Odyssey would think that BE would win. So at this point can BE go after any company that happens to use an "eye" system, even outside of paintball.

And None of you can say how far BE would have gone, my guess is had they been able to completely destroy Odyssey, they would have.

[madmatt151]

More money....

I agree with the fact that BE might have more money that Odyssey and that is why they settled. I have seen many legal cases go for years and years, and cost all kinds of money. It may have been cheaper for Odyssey ot settle, even if they can't sell the halos for 4 years. We really do not know all the detials, and until we do, we cannot judge too much. As for the intellectual property, if I was designing a hopper, honestly, ho wmany parts are there? I would take the time to see if any of those dozen or so parts has a patent on it, especially when you know BE is involved. If Odyssey made the eye kowing full well that BE had a patent then they were wrong. If they didn't bother to look up the patent, then they were sloppy and have paid for it. It happens.

[Kneedragger]

Originally posted by Muzikman
Hmm...interesting...Wonder how many halo's they got in stock, might have to buy a few.

Don't sweat it, we'll be providing HALO B's for quite a long time. You should know better then to believe everything your read on the internet.

[Kneedragger]

[Kneedragger]

Originally posted by Kevmaster
Um...what is BE doing wrong here? They patented an item. Anoter company infringed that patent.

False statement there. Better re-read the press release. You must have missed the part about the suit being DISMISSED.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Kneedragger


False statement there. Better re-read the press release. You must have missed the part about the suit being DISMISSED.