Need help on deciding which multi-insert barrel to get

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  • BajaBoy
    Registered User
    • Jun 2002
    • 2158

    #16
    Re: Need help on deciding which multi-insert barrel to get

    Originally posted by paint magnet
    Please tell why you like / don't like each one and the setup you're using it on. I play to use this barrel (with different backs) for my mag and Angel and any other gun I get in the future so it has got to last.

    Here's what I have as reasons to buy/ not to buy these barrels:

    Powerlyte Scepter Kit-GOOD
    inserts are durable and screw in

    heard nothing but good about them

    BAD-
    price

    only SS backs are available

    smallest insert is .682 and I'm shooting Diablo paint occasionally that is .679 or so it seems

    only 5 inserts

    only 12 and 14" tips available


    FREAK kit (with all 8 inserts)

    Good-
    8 Inserts
    Lots of different length and different color fronts

    Choice of front (AA or teardrop)

    Choice of SS or Aluminum back

    Parts are easy to find

    Inserts are marked with bore size

    BAD
    inserts can wear out

    inserts can come out of alignment

    some people don't like smart parts

    JJ Edge Kit
    Good

    has different backs and fronts

    made by JJ
    Bad
    only SS backs available

    expensive


    Let me know what you think. Thanks.
    did u say freak inserts wear out??? lol i Never heard this Ever b4
    RT
    Ace'd Emag (sold)
    Xmag (sold)

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    • cphilip
      Former Moderator

      • Jun 2026
      • 16216

      #17
      ...and they don't "come out of alignment" either. Some people have had miss milled backs that needed exchange but that wasn't the inserts doing it. I got set thats two years old and its not wearing out or coming out of alignement...

      You not considering the CP kit? I know its a bit more pricey but its sure a nice choice too.


      AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

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      • Ryknow
        Proud pneumag owner.
        • Nov 2002
        • 816

        #18
        If you dont want a freak for a mag, I suggest an Equation Bizerk kit, it had 5 or 6 inserts I belive and they are teflon coated SS. The barrel itself in alum.
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        • BajaBoy
          Registered User
          • Jun 2002
          • 2158

          #19
          cphilip, by the way what kind of barrel is going on your xmag? freak?
          RT
          Ace'd Emag (sold)
          Xmag (sold)

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          • PzYcO
            PzYcOmagg
            • Jan 2003
            • 1067

            #20
            Uhm J&J Edge kit is allum, has 4 backs, and it only costs 114$

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            • paint magnet
              Member # 10,261
              • Dec 2001
              • 2488

              #21
              The Freak is sounding better and better, and I even got a chance to shoot one. It was .693 and shooting Diablo but it shot great. I think I'm going to go with the Freak since they are made for Automags, and to get it for a different gun only requires one different back, not 5 Thanks a lot for the help.
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              • rdb123
                i have no ear
                • Oct 2002
                • 1507

                #22
                Get the new-style Scepter kit. It works extremely well and looks really nice. (well on my SFL it does)
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                • cphilip
                  Former Moderator

                  • Jun 2026
                  • 16216

                  #23
                  Originally posted by BajaBoy
                  cphilip, by the way what kind of barrel is going on your xmag? freak?
                  You know I have been giving that some thought lately. I do have some cocker barrels. I have a Boomy but I realy do not want that weight on this marker. I have a OTP kit I could use but its silver so not realy a good match. I do have one short .693 CP barrel in black and the stock most likey will be about .689 or so. I could get by with that. I might pick up a Freak back until I decide. I just have not decided. Anyone gots a Aluminum Black Freak Cocker back they want to sell of trade give me a holler.

                  I realy think that when I can afford it I will get one of the CP kits for this X mag. Eventualy.


                  AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

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                  • Phil
                    Registered User
                    • May 2001
                    • 506

                    #24
                    cphilip check ebay. I see cocker freak backs there all the time. Have been looking for a angel newstyle silver freak back for about 2 weeks now.

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                    • AcemanPB
                      Exactly
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 1885

                      #25
                      I just bought a freak, and used it last saturday. I was shooting Anarchy with the .689 insert. I noticed while shooting that occasionly one of my balls would curve down really sharp . I think it might have been the paint because I noticed some flat spots on some of the balls.


                      Also after looking at my freak how can the inserts come out of "alignment" I don't understand what can mess up, could someone please explain?

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                      • sneakyhacker420
                        AO's Uber Green Guru
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 1247

                        #26
                        cphillip, get an Evil PIPE Set... they are yummy

                        i'm waiting for evil to bring out the green-fade ones, so that i can put it on my impy
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                        • LaW
                          Why play?
                          • Oct 2000
                          • 3124

                          #27
                          I had a freak but I only used 2 inserts for the most part (i used a couple more at some tournaments but whatever)

                          I just bought an edge kit because i remember loving my 688 2pc J&J barrel I had on my emag a year ago. Great kit, 4 backs, 688 and 691 are what I usually use, and they have a 693 that comes in handy for me and if I end up shooting some small paint at 685 not too shabby :)
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