i know it's old....but......Automag doubts

[magman007]

sory sun warrior but you were just getin alittle to negative for my taste, i understand what you are trying to do but just get your facts strainght please.

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[Arturus]

Tssk Tssk SUN WARRIOR. =p

Using those poor elves as scapegoats, shame on you mister.

By the way, not everyone believes Cockers to be inferior and 'crappy guns'. A good example - Me! Just darn happy with my Rt Pro is all.

Now leave the poor elves alone!

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[Zumina]

well, you guys were getting a little too negative for my tastes, what with the statement that originated from one's posterior.

[Arturus]

Note the sarcasm in my voice in the post above?

Oh sorry, can't hear my voice.

Either way, it wasn't meant to be 'negative' on my part. More of a playful tone with a touch of sarcasm!

I understand your reasoning for the statements you've made in your previous posts, but it wouldn't be bad to keep the facts straight nonetheless.

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[C�borg]

Cockers are not high maintnace! I've owned 7 cockers and the only maintnance I ever did was oil the gun every three or 4 days of play, and make sure the bolt is greased enough, that is the only performance maintnace I ever had to do, the only other maintnace was cleaning off the outside of the gun if it got dirty, just like I would any gun. The biggest problem I ever had was a jam, and it only happend in a used cocker I bought for very cheap, easy to fix, he hadn't greased the bolt enough.

The biggest reason I like cockers is the sliding trigger, it's just so nice and smooth, the only thing I like better than a sliding trigger is an electronic one. Son't get me wrong, mags are great, but I just prefer a sliding trigger.

[Zumina]

This board needs Italics. That way we can detect sarcasm..

[Arturus]

Sorry =p



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[Army]

It's the Ford Vs Chevy thing:

My '96 Ranger: 139,000+ miles, on the third set of tires, will get 340 miles out of the 14gal tank (with room to spare). Starts every morning and drives me 50 miles to work, used to drive over 2 hours to work for 3 years.

My brothers '78 Chevy fleetside: four engines in 13 years, 2 sets of tires a year, bumper was torn off by a dirt bike (no, I wasn't riding it!), if it got better than 200 miles from 18 gallons, it was going downhill the whole time. Sold it, got a 2000Ram, 2 sets of tires in 20,000 miles, AC quit, heater leaks. Sold it, now drives a PT Cruiser as of 6 months ago, been in the shop twice for engine problems, brake lights shorted.

AutomaG=Ranger
All other guns=my brothers bad luck


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[Arturus]

lol Army.

This has to be one of the more distinct and unique comparisons by far.

Ranger vs your brother's bad luck.

One of those sayings that I'll be looking back to one day.



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[hitmanng]

Ragnarok,
I must say that you need to try both. You will not do wrong with an RT or a good quality properly timed cocker. You can get years of fun and performance out of either. I personally wouldn't count out your Tippman. If you have the money I would suggest the Ballistic sports M98 E kit.

http://www.ballisticsports.com/generic.html?pid=12

These people are from around my home town and so I have seen them in action. They will give you performance on a level of the RT or a cocker but the comfort of the m98 that you are used too.
Just a thought
hitmanng

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[MinimagRockin']

Army your car will go down for saying that, you've just cursed yourself. Also I'm ashamed to see this post turn into a cocker vs. mag thread. How many of these have we all been through? Like 5000 maybe at least? Put an end to this madness.

[hitmanng]

Originally posted by MinimagRockin':
Army your car will go down for saying that, you've just cursed yourself. Also I'm ashamed to see this post turn into a cocker vs. mag thread. How many of these have we all been through? Like 5000 maybe at least? Put an end to this madness.

I must disagree with you on this. This seems far from a Cocker vs mag thread. This seems like a what's a good marker thread and most people say they both are but they are very different. I would ask you to find that at most other gun related forums. I think it is far from madness and actually a good discussion.
hitmanng


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[slayer]

Originally posted by Linkin:
I love the mags. But you may want to look into other guns also. Bushmasters are great Electronic guns for a very good price. I might even get one....

Yes, that is what I have heard also. I just can't tell people to buy an RT right away without trying electro triggers. If they like manual shooting guns then get an rt or a cocker. My suggestion is only get a cocker if: 1. you have a good shop llocally that can tune them up
or 2. you have the patience and intelligence to learn how to time them

Otherwise an RT would be nice also, especially since you can get them for so cheap used

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[Ragnarok]

Listen guys....relax,breathe"all is well......all is well...."

you guys pour too much into this stuff and are arguing all the time...did you know that if you guys actually read your posts you see that everything you guys say contradicts what everyone else says(with few exceptions)so take it easy.....

As for the whole thing all i want is a tourney marker,i have the patience and skill for a 'cocker(i am an apprentice airsmith and tech at the local shop,.....that should answer a lot then....)And i know the whole thing about shootdown.....i know everything there is to know....but what it all comes down to is the day to day reliabilty and comfort and style and playability and upgrades.....i will eventually get accustomed to any marker anyways so i'm not worried about how the trigger feels or anything like that!

I do not want to buy electro cuz it's a waste of money for what i do.....i need mechanical...

So stop arguing and someone(preferably a member or moderator)give me some sort of answer.....i already got like 79 answers on the cocker forum that are very convincing.....c'mon guys....get your act together please!

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[slayer]

If you can fix both then here is the real simple answer. Go play with both, they are both good guns and come back and tell us which one you like. If you don't care after trying them then buy whatever is cheaper?