my new hinge frame

[PolishSausage]

I love these threads!

[FalconGuy016]

strong, I am openmouthed at how wrong you are ... and how you continue it

[FalconGuy016]

Originally posted by strongboy2005

The gas does not disperse like that inside the gun. It is a blast of air, if the pressure ceased we could not reach any kind of velocity like our paintball guns can achieve. Even if the pressure does drop, in that space it would be so insignificant it would not slow the ball. Even 1 psi more than the air outside would still have enough force on the back of the ball to continue acceleration.

Yes, that is how it disperses. As there is more VOLUME for the same amount of air to fill it, there is LESS psi. What is a "blast of air" as you say. Yes, it is a blast of air! The blast effect IS the air starting with high psi then as the paintball opens more volume behind it, there is less psi because the air spreads out! The pressure doesn't cease instantly, it ceases when it escapes into the outside world. What if the pressure didn't cease (like you imply??)? We would all die of high air pressure.

Someone get a cocker and a mag and show him with direct physical results... regular physics doesnt seem to get through

[Telefragged]

Once the ball leaves the barrel, the gas pressure dissapates, and there is nothing to continue propelling the ball forward, or anything to continue accelerating it.

Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla...

[JT2002]

some people are so ignorant. strongboy, i have some advice for you in my sig

[SqueegeeKid]

Well, i know this thread went way out to left field but i'm gonna keep with the original question concerning Hinges:

I just picked up a new 2K3 Cocker. I tried a few of my friends older Cockers with the slide trigger and enjoyed them very much. I always wanted one and i finally got the chance. The new 2K3's come stock with a hinge i'm sure you all know.

I love it! The trigger feels alot like my Mag's (duh, no slide) but it has maybe a quarter of the needed force to pull it. I can get that hinge singing! Going back to my Retro i really noticed the amount of force i need to pull it.

Is there anyway to make the Retro's trigger lighter?

[-=Squid=-]

Can somebody provide me as many links as possible proving that there is no difference in range? My whole field believe there is, and I want to prove them wrong with several different sources. The only one I have so far is the one posted in this thread. Thanks for the help.

[FreshmanBob]

Obviously you don't understand what I'm saying, so lemmie put this in the SIMPLEST possible terms

When a gun fires, it lets out a controlled volume of air at a controlled psi. After that it stops letting out air. That controlled volume initially has a great deal of force on the ball, giving it the most acceleration. Eventually the force of the air is not enough to effect the ball and can barely keep up with it. That point generally comes when porting starts, because there is a loss in pressure behind the ball, or when the barrel ends.

YOUR WRONG! FACE IT!

the guys site even says that his theory has NEVER been tested, so its not even a theory! It's a hypothosis that hasn't been tested, its not proven!

[JT2002]

a hypothesis is an educated guess. Are you sure u can even call it that?

[FooTemps]

Originally posted by JT2002
a hypothesis is an educated guess. Are you sure u can even call it that?

What that guy said sounded like something a paintball company would use for marketing.

[Brak]

Originally posted by strongboy2005
check out http://www.geocities.com/cockermongol and check the cocker functions sections and there is proof that an autococker shoots farther than an automag.

heres what i got from that website:
Note: The following is an untested theory thought up by me, it contains no factual evidence of any source of data with true factual measurments confirming the theory.


yup, this guy sure does have proof that an autococker shoots farther than an automag!!

[strongboy2005]

I have no more evidence, but I have both had a cocker and a mag. So this is what I'm gonna do: I will video tape a stock 2k3 cocker and a stock mag. They will be placed on an even plane and fired at a wall 75 feet away. Both of them should be able to hit the wall, so I HYPOTHESIZE that the cocker's paint marks will be higher up on the wall than the automag's thereby implying that the cocker achieved the greater distance? Would that be enough to satisfy you all?

[Python14]

no, if you must know, that is not good enough.

[hostage]

Well actually the balls do excelorate once living the barrels, in the right condition all falling object accelorate at a speed of 9.8m/s^2 (9.8meters per second per second). It will accelorate going down, however from the point of leaving the barrel the velocity will drop off. Also you would have to do a test using same paint, same velocity, use a freak kit etc. Then make sure you use multible markers and also you have many uncontrollable varibles.
-Doron

[Brak]

no, it isnt good enough. we dont know what air source your using or what velocty your using, or the barrel to paint match. so you could just turn up the velocity on your cocker and keep the automag the same and say your autococker shoots farther. get a chrono, use the same paint and barrels, use the same air source too, and THEN it will be good enough