A BIG Trigger Question!!!!!!

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  • WaRBladE
    Green Glow of Deviance
    • Feb 2003
    • 75

    #91
    I would say the mechanical because if the batteries died you could always switch to have the gun run without any electrical parts. If the batteries died in the electrical trigger system then say goodbye rest of the day or you would need to buy some 9v batteries. (some electric triggers run off 9v batteries while others run off special rechargeable ones)


    EDIT - This was refering to how the E-mag trigger is setup now...if the batteries die you can run it as a mechanical setup by flipping a switch.
    Last edited by WaRBladE; 02-17-2003, 08:02 PM.
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    • tazman
      Registered User
      • Jun 2001
      • 261

      #92
      It would depend on the price of it. An electro frame for the mag is about $450 cdn(Almost too rich for my blood with a morgage two kids and a wife who wants a mag aswell) If it is cheap enough I would get one if it is too much then I would have to pass. The electro frames have a good rate of fire and are realy smooth if you can get a mech frame to do that and it has a good feel and is quick and smooth then you will have a big hit.

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      • myspdkls
        Registered User
        • Sep 2002
        • 11

        #93
        This is what I've been waiting for!!!

        You have read my mind Tom! Giving the ability to fly on a trigger without the probability of frying a board or running out of batteries is the perfect combination. I'm about to upgrade from a pre-star valve to an X-valve and an I-frame and I would love to see that with a lighter (like its not already light) pull could do for the ROF. Please-o-please at least put this idea out in a proto for some testing(I'd be happy to do this for you)so that we can see how it works.

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        • karatekid8989
          Mag RT nut
          • Mar 2003
          • 76

          #94
          i like the mechanical triggers they stand up to abusive play and seem more reliable
          Good Traders: TheMagMan,Tunaman,ChucktheMAGician,Mirthvader

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          • Jerhew
            Riverside Regiment
            • Jul 2002
            • 677

            #95
            um...
            hey
            any word on this...
            it's been awhile and tom hasn't mentioned a peep
            i imagine he's really busy trying to get those xmags out
            it'd be nice to hear about some progress on this though
            (sits back down and waits patiently)
            TheDuelist "The problem is that Tom has developed the VW Beetle of the paintball industry. It's almost too good to change and far too reliable."

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            • Cryer
              Paintball is over.
              • Nov 2002
              • 4105

              #96
              Hey, Tom...
              When you guys want to test it out...Throw one my way! I'll be happy to play with it!

              Team Sandbaggers.
              -We own j00 all.-

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              • Mook564
                I'm not important
                • Oct 2002
                • 59

                #97
                Originally posted by JAM
                No question- MECHANICAL.

                - no batteries to charge, no worries about wet weather, usually can be fixed easier. Just more reliable over all.

                The only problem is that most of the paintball world has been brainwashed into thinking that a gun has to be electro to compete.

                lemmings.


                -j
                Plus you dont have to worry about droping your electronic gun and messing up the board on it. Boards for an electro are not cheep Also the price of batteries will add up over time ( I am cheep like that ).
                Just remember your moms credit card can't but you talent.

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                • Quiet
                  I should shut up now
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 781

                  #98
                  I sold my electro a while ago and just play with a retro. My best friends angel sits in a box while he's out playing with his cocker. It's just more satisfying to play mech, at least for me.

                  Mech all the way.

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                  • Dragoon
                    Team Dragoons
                    • May 2001
                    • 580

                    #99
                    Hhhmmmm.....

                    I hear the cries for Mechanical, and I agree with the arguments. But my marketing part of me thinks it would only be a product that mag fanatics like and use. The larger market out there is rushing towards electro. Even if a mechanical frame is better, it would be hard to overcome the 'electro is faster/better' mentality that is so strong at the moment.

                    If possible, I'd like to see both frames made. But that may be like having your cake and eating it too

                    Douglas

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                    • mykroft
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 2010

                      #100
                      Mechanical, if for a mag.

                      I'm no fan of the E-Mag trigger, but am a huge fan of Hinge frames for Cockers (Except WGP or Shocktech Hinges, which suck).
                      2k2 VF Cocker, STO/Eclipse Blade, Old-Style 14" Boomstick,
                      68AutoMag Classic Feed CF11023, Ring trigger.

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                      • Mickster
                        Registered User
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 166

                        #101
                        i love mechanical markers, so i would have to say no to the electro if you could get a lighter trigger pull

                        Powered by an Emag and RT

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                        • Dubstar112
                          Dubstar111x
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 2321

                          #102
                          Too light and theres no return pressure, unless of course this counts the RT valve in.. then its a different story. Too light and every short strokes etc...
                          AO #765
                          CCM Series 5
                          Prerelease Impulse
                          Hyperframed Warped Mag w/flatline tank
                          Feedback.


                          Good to know that somone of Tom's status seeks "relief" from a sport he helped create. A sport now ruled by a single patent.

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                          • kenny45749
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 53

                            #103
                            As of current technology on the market I would say that electronic triggers are superior. I am not talking about bps either. Sure electronic triggers usually allow an increase in rate of fire, but they offer some other benifits as well, despite there general drawbacks.
                            The common arguement is that electronics can fail, and this is true. AGD countered this arguement though by ingeniously including the ability to switch back to manual mode in the Emag.
                            Electric components in the gun allow you to control previously uncontrolable parameters of the gun. Things like cap rate, dwell, etc. The gun can still fire properly, and posibly even better with the help of electrical timing and actuation. With an electric frame firing the gun, it usually mimicks the original firing sequence(but alot faster) and does the brunt of the work for you. What is superior about this is that it doesnt cheat the gun in order to speed up.
                            The example that always comes to my mind is the introduction of slotless plates in cockers in order to speed them up. Everyone knows that these were faster, but they also wore out the components of the gun faster.
                            In order for a gun to be reliable it usually has a solid contact somewhere in its design between two key points(such as the sear and the lug in a cocker). In order to soften the triggers and speed up the guns, people shorten and reduce this contact point, seriously jeopardizing the long term reliability of the gun.
                            So seeing this I fear the introduction of new mechanical triggers that try to be as soft as an electric one. It just seems to me something must be sacrificed within the gun in order to make it equaly soft and quick.
                            AGD is known for quality though, so I am sure that yall have found a way around this serious drawback, and the mag may be capable of having a slight redesign to soften/speed it up.
                            As for now I am happy with my Emag. It is user adjustable, reliable, and built to add a soft and quick pull to the RT ,without giving up key points in its solid design.

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                            • CrazyLad

                              #104
                              mechanical....electronic you have to change batteries and theres just so many things that could go wrong...Also if they get wet your in trouble

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                              • ReTro Boy
                                Ultra Evil Specialist...
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 576

                                #105
                                Mechanical.

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