R45 frame

[p8ntball72]

on pbnation they are saying that this frame will fit most guns. and is in production for the timmy right now.
it looks like the frame tom has been toying with to me .
what do you think?

[p8ntball72]

they look real close.
i wonder who will have them for the mag first R45 or AGD...

[_Spork_1]

looks like a cross between the clamshell/iframe/ir3 grip/z/ygrip

best of both world

[beam]

That looks like a lot of aluminum/weight.

I think, as always, AGD will make the best product for the mag. Maybe that grip will work well for other markers.

[mag-hatter]

if i was tom i'd probably have killed someone by now. he comes up with an ingenious anti chop bolt then some dude comes up with another, he works on the y frame and someone just makes one that looks exactly like it! DAAAAAH!

how can it fit most guns? would it fit a mag?

[rikkter]

Originally posted by mag-hatter
if i was tom i'd probably have killed someone by now. he comes up with an ingenious anti chop bolt then some dude comes up with another, he works on the y frame and someone just makes one that looks exactly like it! DAAAAAH!

how can it fit most guns? would it fit a mag?

its not uncommon for two people to have the same 'idea'.
the way they made the anti chop bolts are completly different you know.

[Top Secret]

Doesn't AGD have a patent on frames that are z-grip type?

[thei3ug]

the autococker spring anti-chop bolts have been around a lot longer than the level 10 bolts.

Just not made under "APB."

[bornl33t]

just kinda funny. I remember tom saying a few years ago when the idea of remaking the z-grip came up that AGD seems to always be TOO FAR ahead of the industry and their ideas don't catch on till a few years down the road. I bet Tom wishes he had a patent on the forwards angled grip frame now.

[magman007]

um, if i remember correctly he does have a pattent on it, and if he doesnt, he still can, as he has previous art to show for it. Remember a while back, he was talking about leasing it to wdp, then the bushy came up, and he said that he was leasing the idea etc, im pretty sure he has it for him self

[EsPo]

looks like a hacked up i frame.

[rikkter]

wdp has a patent on the 90 degree frame. yet theres the iframe. wdp tried sueing them, but it didn't pass.

[EsPo]

Originally posted by rikkter
wdp has a patent on the 90 degree frame. yet theres the iframe. wdp tried sueing them, but it didn't pass.

also didnt happen with the OTB vert/90 frames.. www.offthebreak.com

[peegee]

patent

hi guys can i just say we had noidea about toms patent on frames forward of 90*.
We do not wish to rip anyone off and we were never going to make the frame for mags we have however just applied for a licence from tom to produce our frame.

thanks
peegee

[ogre55]

Peegee:

Thank you for keeping us, the consumers informed and thanks for actually getting a license, rather than doing what has become endimic in this industry i.e., producing unlicensed products, getting (or starting lawsuits) and causing no end of grief to everyone.

It's nice to see that the the industrial and production ends of paintball are beginning to grow up and play by the rules.

Ogre