Do barrels affect accuracy?

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  • halB
    Registered User
    • Sep 2002
    • 953

    #16
    a barrels a barrel
    almost all have the same finish

    however, a bore is not a bore, and paint to barrel match is essential.

    also materials make a difference. god i wish i could get freak inserts in brass

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    • temps
      starcraft?
      • Aug 2002
      • 546

      #17
      Barrel effecting accuracy!!!??? Thats blasfamy!!

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      • PsychoBaller
        Gone are my SFL days...
        • Nov 2000
        • 1952

        #18
        All I know is.....

        my Scepter Kit far outperforms my Boomstick in accuracy, and cleaning through breaks (to which there are not as many anyways).

        Sometimes the paint I use gets mixed up depending on what is left in my hopper from the last fill, and what is in the next pod I grab from my Redz Pack..... Therefore the sizes differ each time I reload.

        I usually use either the .688 or the .690 bore inserts on the Scepter, and all is well on the field.

        ~da baller

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        • LaW
          Why play?
          • Oct 2000
          • 3124

          #19
          whats a barrel?
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          • luke
            lukescustoms.com

            • Jan 2001
            • 8215

            #20
            Ha ha, I was considering doing the same thing after our last chat, I just didn't want to "MC" it.

            Personally I'm waiting on the final answer, without doing some deep studying I'm still not sure what the answer is.

            From my own experience I've noticed very little to no performance differences between high-end barrels, certainly not a sufficient enough to warrant ALL the money spent.

            I often use my original Mini-Mag aluminum tube that came with the gun back in '95. It seems to shoot as well as anything else, the only real problem is, it's extremely loud and everyone gives me crap about it when I do use it!

            The barrel I "miss" the most, is one I bought from an old timer in '95, (he probably had it for years) it was an Automag J n J 10" Aluminum tube w/3 slots in the end. Did that design hold the key to performance? I don't know, but for $30 I sure enjoyed it.

            I didn't vote because I don't have a "for sure" answer worth arguing about. Although, BlackVCG made some good points about manufacturing that I do agree with and from that perspective I believe "yes" they do make a difference.

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            • FeelTheRT
              Registered User
              • Jun 2001
              • 2950

              #21
              from my expirience, barrels dont make too much of a difference. IMO, it is the paint that makes the difference in accuracy. If you buy fresh, round paint, you will shoot accurately. If your gun is consistant, it will be even more accurate at longer distance. I prefer to over size my barrels. For example, i would buy small bore paint such as Diablo Inferno, and i would use a larger bore barrel such as a .689 or larger CP. The reason for this i dont have to worry about paint not fitting due to swelling and what not and if i ever do break a paintball, i defently know it is chopping because the paint defently fits the barrel. Some say accuracy may be decreased slightly like this but i have not expirienced such case. Try out different things and see how it is for you.
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              • hitech
                Not a shedder of vortices
                • Nov 2001
                • 4775

                #22
                Originally posted by FeelTheRT
                I prefer to over size my barrels.
                So do I. I use a stock eMag barrel.


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                • hitech
                  Not a shedder of vortices
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 4775

                  #23
                  Anyone else?


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                  • FeelTheRT
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 2950

                    #24
                    well acutally i dont over size any more because i now shoot a Cocker. Since Cocker is closed bolt, it requires you to pay more attention to paint to barrel match because if your paint is too small, it will just roll out of your barrel and you end up shooting first shot empty lol. But i ment like when i shot Angels and other open bolt markers, which is what more markers are with the exception of the Autococker, Shocker, Blazer, Solvergn(sp?), Excalibur and any pumps.
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                    • Mossman
                      habitual line stepper
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 3751

                      #25
                      Originally posted by LaW
                      whats a barrel?
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                      • sneakyhacker420
                        AO's Uber Green Guru
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 1247

                        #26
                        paint-to-bore match DEFINETELY matters, more consistent, more accurate, and more gas-efficent


                        some barrels are mroe accurate than others, that is because of the different tolerances from different companies, along with the material it is made out of, the control bore length, and the all important paint-to-bore match

                        i've had a stock piranha barrel shoot futher, more accurate, and quieter than some DYE barrels, that just shows you that tolerances are not the same among all of the barrel companies


                        btw, oversizing barrels helps you shoot floor paint easier... i know, i have a large-bore barrel and i can shoot any paint thats not soaking wet on the ground, hopper wipes off most of the crap and then it just goes through the barrel... i found 600 rounds on the ground last week and i shot that through my mag for 4 games without any breaks

                        my mag loves floor paint, but my impulse absolutely HATES it because it's a PERFECT paint-bore match (.691 freak to PMI premiums)
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                        • manike
                          INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                          • Jan 2001
                          • 3820

                          #27
                          Originally posted by sneakyhacker420
                          paint-to-bore match DEFINETELY matters, more consistent, more accurate, and more gas-efficent


                          some barrels are mroe accurate than others, that is because of the different tolerances from different companies, along with the material it is made out of, the control bore length, and the all important paint-to-bore match
                          Got any bonafide proof of that?

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                          • steveg
                            Member
                            • May 2001
                            • 460

                            #28
                            So, the question that I've been wondering about is,
                            why is everyone so darn sure that the barrels inside finish
                            is so important? and for that matter the material.

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                            • manike
                              INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                              • Jan 2001
                              • 3820

                              #29
                              Good question Steve.

                              I'm not convinced either yet.

                              I have a splatmaster with a plastic barrel which is very accurate... and I have used a piece of PVC pipe to good effect.

                              I do think having a very highly polished finish may be better if you break paint, in that it's harder for the paint to stick to the surface and thus will shoot cleaner easier...

                              but I'm yet to be convinced of any other benefits...

                              maybe have a lower co-efficient of friction will help efficiency, but that would only apply if the ball was a tight fit to the bore...

                              If you have a looser fit, it shouldn't make any significant difference should it?
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                              • hitech
                                Not a shedder of vortices
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 4775

                                #30
                                Originally posted by manike
                                I do think having a very highly polished finish may be better if you break paint, in that it's harder for the paint to stick to the surface and thus will shoot cleaner easier...
                                I've heard of using Rain-X (the stuff that keeps water from sticking to your windshield) on the inside surface of a barrel for the same reason. I've always meant to try it. Since level 10 it just isn't a priority anymore.


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