IR3 Fun (56k BeWare)

[obsolete898]

By the way the Dynasty Mamba is not his.

Ben I'm dissapointed. Trying to bite off on Nick's style.

I'll have my dark or C&C in May. Bye-bye emag.

[Mr. T!]

Agreed, Canada.

Ahhhh, but if only nickies could shoot the ropes mine can. The power of Christ Compels thy to get a IR3.

Dump the mag, unless your a F*g.

[Badabing]

Ur gunna go to h e double hockey sticks for saying that. By the way I'm lmao I want one of those signs.

[obsolete898]

Originally posted by Mr. T!
Agreed, Canada.

Ahhhh, but if only nickies could shoot the ropes mine can. The power of Christ Compels thy to get a IR3.

Dump the mag, unless your a F*g.

I love my mag, I just like the Ir3 better. Funny you have/had a mag.

Oh by the by, joking like that here will get people in an up-roar.

[Mr. T!]

LOL, i figured that, but oh well, people seem to be real sensetive around here (evil situation).

Anyways, it's all in good fun.

[JT2002]

Originally posted by Mr. T!

Anyways, it's all in good fun.

yeah, until somebody gets hurt

[ringmasta187]

irs3's r ok, just not all they are cracked up to be. But hey if you spent 1400$ on any gun u would defend it to your dying day.

[obsolete898]

Originally posted by ringmasta187
irs3's r ok, just not all they are cracked up to be.

How is that?

[ringmasta187]

i mean come on they are supposed to be the crem da la crem of paintball, but if you ask me they fall short. I give it to wdp for coming up with a crazy design for the internals setting it apart from every other gun and making it vurtually impossible to fix it yourself. But what does a 14 way really do to make the gun better, i havnt noticed any thing special in performance, and the damn thing has no range. Atleast they did put a cop in, and you only have to pay 500$ extra for it. The grip is alright but could be way better, the 90 degree angle dosnt really work with a tank mounted directly under the grip, and the trigger is also hard to use being so close to the frame it self, maybe if it was out more and kind of on an angel away from the grip it would work better. The trigger having a giant curve at the bottom makes it hard to walk also, i do however like the extemly low amout of play the trigger has right out of the box that is prolly the nicest feature about the grip. It is also supposedly adjustable but those 3 holes u have to choose from dont really do much if u ask me. Its got all kinds of crazy settings to choose from though, but is the temperature really needed, or linking and sending slow a** messages. The design, look and overall feel of the gun are great though. It is small, light, and sexy. But as for performance its not anything to brag over. The imp, matrix, timmy, mag, and even shockers can pretty much all do the same thing performance wise. O ya and if you stick your finger in the breech and pull the trigger it hurts really bad. This is just all my opinion, for the price and hype around it u would excpect it to completely own the paintball feild and make any user an untouchable pro. Yet it falls short,if you ask me (which u did lol), its sad but true.

[obsolete898]

Wow your post is chock full of poo. Let's see if we can chop through it.

making it vurtually impossible to fix it yourself

Actually it's not that hard if you know what to do. It's not any more difficult than any other non-sear tripping electro.

But what does a 14 way really do to make the gun better

That's like saying what does the 3 way on a cocker do to make the gun better. It doesn't make it better persay(sp), it's just the way the gun directs the air.

and the damn thing has no range

Proof you have no clue.

Atleast they did put a cop in

It's called COPS.

The grip is alright but could be way better

Personnal preferance, alot of people like it.

the 90 degree angle dosnt really work with a tank mounted directly under the grip

Huh? What does that change? If you don't like where the tank is use a drop. It's just like any other gun.

and the trigger is also hard to use being so close to the frame it self, maybe if it was out more and kind of on an angel away from the grip it would work better

How the heck do you hold a gun? Put your fingers through the gaurd and pull.

The trigger having a giant curve at the bottom makes it hard to walk also,

That part of the trigger shouldn't come into play, just hit the trigger up higher, or buy a new trigger.

It is also supposedly adjustable but those 3 holes u have to choose from dont really do much if u ask me.

It changes the pivot point on the trigger. It changes the whole feel of the trigger.

Its got all kinds of crazy settings to choose from though, but is the temperature really needed, or linking and sending slow a** messages.

Not really needed but, it's not bad to have. The IR feature is great, if you're having problems you can beam settings from a differant gun to yours. If that was the problem it's fixed.

But as for performance its not anything to brag over. The imp, matrix, timmy, mag, and even shockers can pretty much all do the same thing performance wise.

Most high-end guns should perform very similar, shoot fast, accurate and not be a blender. Everything else is preferance.

O ya and if you stick your finger in the breech and pull the trigger it hurts really bad.

Why would you do that in the first place? Is that a logical way to determine how good a gun is.

for the price and hype around it u would excpect it to completely own the paintball feild and make any user an untouchable pro

Ummm... if you expect that with any piece of equipment you're a complete noob. Everyone knows that it's all in the players hand. No piece of equipment will make you better but it can limit play.

Yet it falls short,its sad but true

You've shown no reason for why it falls short, therfore it's not true. It seems by a couple of your statements that you've got alot to learn.

[Creative Mayhem]

I love the sign!!!

As for whether or not the Angel is worth it's weight in gold.... I would have to say no. I currently own a 2K Dark Angel, and it is a great marker, no question. However, IMO it's not worth the high dollar value. I prolly won't get rid off it for the simple reason, I wouldn't get half of what I bought it for, but that's just the way things are. As for the IR3, I can't say as I haven't had the opportunity to play with one, but as an angel owner, I don't believe the extras justify thier price tag. Messages that you can only use when the IR eyes are pointing at each other, not useful. And the more efficient internals, that too is a step in the right direction but again price, is the issue. To sum up, my only real beef is the price vs features issue, I personally don't feel the Angel is worth the high price tag. Like someone said, Imps and other electro can do the same thing but at a lower cost. Cut me up if you like, but this is my opinion and I am entitled to it.

C Mayhem

[obsolete898]

Originally posted by Creative Mayhem
Cut me up if you like, but this is my opinion and I am entitled to it.

No one would cut you up for your opinion. That's fine if you don't like them, but when people post stuff like ringmasta they get cut up.

[ringmasta187]

wow u really cut up my post, but i expectided that. I said in my post it was all opinion, and u didnt ask me to base my statements on fact. Yet however they are all based on my experiences with ir3's. Now if you wanna do the facts i say take all the high end guns, test em together and you will see that the angel falls short of the top. Which is why i made my satement that it is an ok marker but dosnt live up to its own hype. Most high end guns can do the exact same thing as an angel, but if you wanna spend and extra 500$ dollars to impress noobs, and boost your ego then go ahead im not gonna stop u.

Ummm... if you expect that with any piece of equipment you're a complete noob. Everyone knows that it's all in the players hand. No piece of equipment will make you better but it can limit play.

Ummm... I didnt say i expected it to, but in the paintball world it seems that many do. I, unlike most, dont fall for the *EDIT* My personal opinion is that you will not cuss on this website, or my personal opinion will give you a 3 day ban. Army others like to dish out. Also i am in no way an angel hater, they do make nice guns, but they have just been talked up way to much and arnt close to being worth the price u have to pay to get one.

O ya they should come with nicer stock barrels too.

[Mr. T!]

Ringmaster- Please go far far far away from my thread, you make me want the two minutes i spent reading your post back.

Everything you said is based on PERSONAL opinoin, no facts. Because you don't like the trigger because you have a hard time putting your fingers through the grip, doesn't make the gun bad... What does a solenoid do? Gimme a break. What does an oring do? It must be one of those over priced features you speak of. How does an angel fall through a test? It will top a test of all high end guns. What hype? You want hype, look at impulses, they have all the hype in the world and they suck out of the box, why do you think they have so many upgrades??

The angel lacks in range? WTF are you talking about? READ YOUR POSTS THEY MAKE NO SENSE!!!! How can it be lacking in range? Yeah, an angel will lack in range if it's velocity is only 200fps and every other gun out there is set a 250.

I can understand you point about the trigger pivots that is personal prefernece, but if you mess around with the gun, you will see they make a big difference.

WDP makes a marker that you cant work on yourself? WTF? Yeah, you can work on it yourself; you degas it, wipe it down, put a drop of oil in the asa, and you are done. THEY ARE VERY SIMPLE TO WORK ON, EASIER THAN SPYDERS...

Please, back your posts up with something resembling hard facts (such as: shockers are less effceint than spyders)

Thank you
Mr. T

[ringmasta187]

id love to agrue with u some more about facts and opinion, but the truth is Angels are the most hyped up gun in existance, any paintball player new or old can tell you what one is. Does that make it better or worth 1400 (keep in mind my descussion is about ir3's) no it dosnt. And any way opinion is one of the biggest reasons for people perchasing guns, not facts. And you can say what ever u want about that comment but the average person, and all others just getting into paintball dont go and get research sheets on each gun they wanna buy. They listen to the companies opinion and the opinion of other players. And in my opinion the angel falls short of its hype. And it does lack in range,(fact: cockers, shockers, matrixes and mags will long ball farther when used at optimal pressure) its trajectory reminds me of a waterfall, not even smart a** comments about poo or orings can change that fact. Angles are nice out of the box, but can and should be better.

And as for backing it up with hard facts, you should try doing the same. I draw my opinions from experience which is as good as fact as far as im concerned.