Eblade Orracle OR Eclipse Cocker

[FalconGuy016]

If you had to choose, which would you prefer?
<img src="http://www.planeteclipse.com/www2001/shopimages/eblade_.blue2black.jpg">
<img src="http://www.worr.com/Orracle02_eblade.jpg">

[pbguy888]

I think the orracle looks alot better...

[FalconGuy016]

heh... I dont... but what do you think about their performance (if you know)

[mykroft]

Eclipse.

Can you say better internals? The Orracle uses stock cocker internals while the Eclipse uses Belsales.

But what you really want is the King of Cockers. The Evolution. With an Eblade. Same components as a Eclipse, far superior looks, tuned by the gods of cockerdom, Belsales.

One of the guys from Full Blast Extreme (11th/Rookie at Skyball, w00t!) had one. It's sickeningly fast and absolutely gorgeous.

Badlands Paintball can hook you up. Brad (One of the owners) shoots a Eblade Evo as his personal gun.

[TNS2k2]

omg dude! i shot the eblade on an eclipse at skyball, all i have to say is WOW! i am getting the e-orracle now, because i like what the orracle comes with, the eclipse is also expensive. PS they are really fast!!!!

[EsPo]

Defintely eclipse...

[recoil]

Eclipse all the way... took mine out for a spin today and boy does she shift, ask Manike

Falcon, you have PMs bro

Dave

[FalconGuy016]

Cool The only think I wish was that the eclipse cocker had a 15 degree ASA

[FalconGuy016]

Originally posted by mykroft
Eclipse.

Can you say better internals? The Orracle uses stock cocker internals while the Eclipse uses Belsales.

But what you really want is the King of Cockers. The Evolution. With an Eblade. Same components as a Eclipse, far superior looks, tuned by the gods of cockerdom, Belsales.

One of the guys from Full Blast Extreme (11th/Rookie at Skyball, w00t!) had one. It's sickeningly fast and absolutely gorgeous.

Badlands Paintball can hook you up. Brad (One of the owners) shoots a Eblade Evo as his personal gun.

Is there anyway I can get a picture of this evolution eblade? I sure would love that

[i like tictacs]

Eclipse...but whoever said Evo is right...damn nice guns.

[AzrealDarkmoonZ]

Well as per the pictures the Orracle is not even tournament legal, ie lack of beavertail even though it comes with a beavertail I generally don't like WGP tails.

Depends wholly on the cosmetic look, they both will perform very similiar. The Eclipse as more of a block look, more futuristic and why that picture as such a horrible looking barrel I do not know but I like the Eclipse look better than the Orracles Organic look.

The evos are very nice even if I dislike some of their color schemes. And if you do happen to buy a cocker come on over to www.air-powered.com, say hi and show us your new toy .

Az, Mod over at air.

[ogre55]

I have never seen either one so I can't say which one is better, but to give you another choice, PnP makes Freeflow E-Blades. Before anyone makes the bold and erronious statement that PnP only uses Racegun, I have one, and it is very, very fast.

Ogre

[FalconGuy016]

Hmmm... freeflow is better than the evolution?
I tried to find their website but I cant find it on google

btw the barrel on the eclipse is a Dye xcel, piece of crap for such an expensive gun (I have one... pretty ok for my 98 but it isnt great) and the caner on the orracle blows it away

[ogre55]

Go to http://www.4freeflow.com/ for the PnP Freeflow site.

Weather Freeflow is better than Evo? I have no idea. I am sure both will have their supporters. I am just going by what I know, because I own it and use it. Honestly though, I think that when you reach the ratified heights of markers like the FF, Evo, SFL, Chipleys, Ultalite, E-Orr, E-Blade, etc., (and those are just some of the high end 'Cockers out there) the difference are not about performance. All are made with the best mechanical parts. All are made to strict tolerances. They are all excellant markers. The difference are ones personal choice of look, feel and weight.

Ogre

[FalconGuy016]

Cool, thanks for the info. I wish I could feel these cockers, but my local pevs hardly carries these (never actually saw the eclipse there ever) and ive never seen any at the field just videos of them shooting and my friends cockers. I dont know whether I want to go expensive cocker or nice emag/xmag.

The eblade sold me on the idea of CONSIDERING getting a cocker and now im trying to get into the cocker scene by learning more about them. How reliable are cockers of this level?