2,500 Shots off a Mag; efficiency upgrades?

[speedyejl]

O wow, omg wow. Your formula takes no account for the volume of air usess. I've put my dwell all the way up to 9ms and I've lowered my inline to 80psi on my Impulse (this was before my LPR so the solinoid was also at 80psi) and it shot 290fps. Guess what my eff was 600 balls from a 68/45!! Acording to your formula I should have been getting 3,825 balls, and belive me I wasn't, I could actually see the dial on my tanks gauge move.

If you want a different perspective a stock Spyder (lets say a Shutter) would get 382 balls from a 68/45. Which is just more bs, in reality they get more around 1000.

[speedyejl]

Ok fair enough Havoc, I didn't relize that the back preassure from balls had an effect on air ussage.

[paintster14]

like i said

once again for illiterate people who cant read i said in theory if you dont believe me go call or email AKA yourself.

[speedyejl]

A theory is a proved hypothesis. Obviosuly your formula wasn't even proved because AKALMP gave you numbers which were different than your hypothesis. So its not even a theory, its a disproven hypothesis.

[Kevmaster]

i restate what speedy said:
AKA also claims their barrel shoots further than other barrels

[cledford]

AKA also claims that closed bolt guns shoot further and more accurately then open bolt.

-Calvin

[FreshmanBob]

Re: your point?

Originally posted by paintster14
people also say closed bolt shoots farther the open?do the math on it seriously im saying the gun operating psi at 180,110,and 90 not the LPR the whole marker.In a 68/45 tank you have 4500 psi per cubic inch,you have 68cu inches therefor its 68x4500=306000 which divided by 180(operating psi) gives you 1700 shots now like i said this is in theory with perfect paint match etc, do the same 68x4500 and divide by the operating psi and it will give you an estimate +/- some on how many shots you should get and by doing this it gave me almost the exact same numbers that AKA did at the AKA Booth at the 01 and 02 World Cup.

Actually this theory does work. It's just that as you lower your pressure, your FPS goes down too, so sure you can fire off 3000+ off a 68/45 but your balls might only go 3 or 4 feet.

EDIT: If you lower the pressure of a gun, you need to use a higher volume of gas. If you don't, then your FPS goes down.

[speedyejl]

Haha, no

I have chronoed my Impulse running at 80psi with a dwell of 20beeps (9ms, its the highest that a normal board will allow one to go) at 290fps.

[speedyejl]

Forgot to mention that I was getting eff like
400balls from my 45/45 which is arounds 600 for a 68/45

[pito189]

Originally posted by Havoc_online
as I've said many times before.

RT/Emag with LX off a 68/4500 should be getting around 1,200 shots.

I will second that. I run mine around 650 though, I wonder how many shoots I can get off a cold 4500 tank? It would be interesting to test it one day.

[paintster14]

cledford

yea aka says it along with WGP,smart parts,and any other company who makes a closed bolt gun,its a marketing ploy i know just as well as anyone closed and open shoot the same its a marketing ploy and as for the theory i posted does work in theory like the dude said but velocity may not be up to par?

[speedyejl]

Actually Smart Parts and WGP advertise their guns as being closed bolt. Not being more acurate or having better distance because of it.

[paintster14]

umm

WGP goes on and on bout closed bolt smart parts doesnt really tho

[speedyejl]

Well Smart Parts does likes to say the Shocker is closed bolt. That was the old shockers only selling point.

[Kevmaster]

Originally posted by speedyejl
Well Smart Parts does likes to say the Shocker is closed bolt. That was the old shockers only selling point.

hehe