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  • shartley
    paintball player
    • Mar 2001
    • 9169

    #31
    Originally posted by SHAZAM-AGD
    the new kids coming into paintball gobble up the stuff cause it has a "NAME BRAND" on it not ever knowing it was made in a sweet shop and then complain when it breaks down and their are no one locals to fix it.

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    • speedyejl
      Hi!
      • May 2002
      • 1202

      #32
      Really?

      Most major companies are located in the US:
      Kingman- CA
      Tippmann-IN
      PMI-IL
      AGD-IL
      Smart Parts-PA
      BE-AR (yes even brasseagle)
      WGP-CA

      I can think of more but correct me If am wrong on any.




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      • luke
        lukescustoms.com

        • Jan 2001
        • 8211

        #33
        speedyejl,
        The point was, many companies has their product made over seas where labor is cheaper, then, they sell it here in the states. Just because the company is based in the US does not mean the products are made here.

        Isn't Kingman Japanese owned? I wonder were their stuff is manufactured??

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        • speedyejl
          Hi!
          • May 2002
          • 1202

          #34
          From what I know I am almost positive Kingman is not Japanese owned. Further more Japan is one of the most expensive places for labor. Only electronics are really made there.




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          • shartley
            paintball player
            • Mar 2001
            • 9169

            #35

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            • luke
              lukescustoms.com

              • Jan 2001
              • 8211

              #36
              Is this writing Japanese or Korean? >>>

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              • shartley
                paintball player
                • Mar 2001
                • 9169

                #37
                Originally posted by luke
                Is this writing Japanese or Korean? >>>

                http://www.kingman.com/
                Yes.

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                • fire1811
                  Firefighter
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 4930

                  #38
                  quality = time

                  its that simple
                  "The Few Who Do Are The Envy Of The Many Who Only Stand And Watch"

                  Alway Remember *343*

                  Si vis pacem, para bellum

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                  • askman
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 463

                    #39
                    The kanji style of writing is used by Chinese(where it originated), korean and japanese. I don't know where kingman is made or who owns the company. You can get quality goods out of asia. All depends upon what people are willing to pay. I like the fact that I can get most bang for the bucks, but from what I've seen, best paintball markers made in US least for now with few exception.

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                    • DjGruv
                      Fox Paintball
                      • Oct 2000
                      • 337

                      #40
                      Originally posted by fire1811
                      quality = time

                      its that simple
                      They out source everything anyway. Spend the $ and get the products out. You only lose $ by making people wait all the time. I know of ALOT of people that didn't buy xmags cus of the wait. Same story with the 4500FL's They took to long to come out. As far as the Xmag goes. Why have the bodies made over in Europe? Its a cnc program correct. Why not have them mass produced over here. They have far less or equal to milling as alot of the othere high end guns out there. and being that they are made of aluminum tooling costs would be very low. Cnc's cut thru aluminum like butter. I'm not trying to flame I just under stand why there is such a hold up. And since you already have the program for the Xmag bodies why not sell just a body as an upgrade in stead of the sluggos?
                      DjGruv
                      Damage Inc.
                      Certified AGD Tech

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                      • Gecko
                        Destructive Customs
                        • May 2001
                        • 405

                        #41
                        been wondering that myself and have thought up a couple scenarios
                        1) AGDE owns a cnc mill that cuts most of the bodies. By having there own machine they don't have to work with an outside machine shop making things cheaper and easier to changes. I know manike has done a ton of stuff with agde on streamlining and improving thier manufacturing process. In the end it's cheaper to simply make them in england.
                        2) and the one i think is more plausible. AGDE is not owned by AGD and therefore AGDE own the rights to the extreme. They are simply keeping production in house becuase they own the rights. I have wondered if tom could buy a licence to the desighn and have some built here. I wonder if tom has to pay import taxes on the extreme bodies..........
                        Aka tech
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                        • Tom Sparkman
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 128

                          #42
                          Originally posted by luke
                          speedyejl,
                          The point was, many companies has their product made over seas where labor is cheaper, then, they sell it here in the states. Just because the company is based in the US does not mean the products are made here.

                          Isn't Kingman Japanese owned? I wonder were their stuff is manufactured??
                          It's manufactured in Taiwan. The company is based in SoCal and owned by a gentleman named Kang, who's originally from Taiwan (ethnic Chinese). Kingman started the price war when they decided to have it made in Taiwan where Mr Kang had mfg contacts. I remember my wife's F2 cost over 300 and now you can buy a stacked tube blowback for 50.

                          Tom

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                          • Hexis
                            Green Mag Freak
                            • Sep 2001
                            • 2427

                            #43
                            Being bored at work can lead to interesting things:

                            KINGMAN INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION

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