RT overrated?

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Originally posted by Verbal138
Before buying one you might want to check with the tourny events around your area - that is if you play tournaments - because a lot of them don't allow the RT... at least they don't in colorado.

Question for those with an RT. I teamate of mine a few years back bought one less than a year after they came out and his was ALWAYS breaking tons of balls and going down. Have they fixed that, or are they still prone to ball breaking and acting up at the wrong times? It appears by old man mags comments about "if/when it acts up..." that they still have that problem.

LvL 10=NO MORE CHOPS. ENOUGH SAID.

LvL 10 my friend, LvL 10...

[Verbal138]

How did they fix it? Did they reduce the pressure?

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Originally posted by Verbal138
How did they fix it? Did they reduce the pressure?

Use the search feature to find alot of in depth info. The way it works is when the bolt meets any resistance, all pressure is immediatly vented, and you get a cool little sound. All you gotta do is replace the powertube internals and use a different bolt. Try sticking your finger in the breach and firing, it's pretty cool.

(I mean it, try it! You'll be amazed!)

[shartley]

[FalconGuy016]

Originally posted by Verbal138
How did they fix it? Did they reduce the pressure?

There are videos of it ... for some reason I cant find them though. You can see them sticking a paintball half in the breech and the bolt bouncing off of it, and a few other tests (like it wont break a dollar bill). I'll come back to this post and add the links later if I can find them.

[cphilip]

Originally posted by _Spork_1


ahem....

stock 2k2 cocker, for 279, eblade fr 350=same range price of the rtpro

Would not then be a Manual Marker now would it? And convert it back to Manuals and then would not be with that ROF. Ahem yourself.... read carefully...you wanna compare having the headache of converting to Electronics to do it? Sure fine! Wait till that electronics goes down on you...

[cphilip]

Re: Re:

Originally posted by Verbal138
Before buying one you might want to check with the tourny events around your area - that is if you play tournaments - because a lot of them don't allow the RT... at least they don't in colorado.

Question for those with an RT. I teamate of mine a few years back bought one less than a year after they came out and his was ALWAYS breaking tons of balls and going down. Have they fixed that, or are they still prone to ball breaking and acting up at the wrong times? It appears by old man mags comments about "if/when it acts up..." that they still have that problem.

Your most likely also confusing the AGD RT with the Tippman RT. Common falacy. And its a falacy that a lot of people prefer to make for some reason.

You need to do some reading. Level 10... but sounds more like you friends cousins uncle had a feed problem and didn't know how to fix it. Nor did he know about how to maintain that marker. Sounds like he doesn't come here. They are simple to fix...

[magzown3]

Alright, i clocked my gun today. 11 bps from classic valve. I think I can push it further, maybe once i warm up or something. I'll post again if I get a higher rof. But I would say that 11 bps is VERY good. Classic valve rocks. O, and I think we all know that under fire, our bps does increase significantly. So I know I have pushed this further.

[aaron_mag]

If you are happy with your classic valve by all means KEEP it. No one on this board would argue that classic mags SUCK! I like my RT but I probably could have lived with the classic as well.

[Verbal138]

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Originally posted by cphilip


Your most likely also confusing the AGD RT with the Tippman RT.

You need to do some reading. Level 10... but sounds more like you friends cousins uncle had a feed problem and didn't know how to fix it. Nor did he know about how to maintain that marker. Sounds like he doesn't come here. They are simple to fix...

Well, the rules say that "reactive triggers" will not be allowed, I don't see how there can be any confusion.

As far as my friends cousins uncle.... actually it was my team captain at the time, and he bought it when it first came out, had a 12v revy (which was then called an 18v and was the best option availble) and it would break paint even when he wasn't rapid firing.

[shartley]

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Originally posted by Verbal138
Well, the rules say that "reactive triggers" will not be allowed, I don't see how there can be any confusion.

As far as my friends cousins uncle.... actually it was my team captain at the time, and he bought it when it first came out, had a 12v revy (which was then called an 18v and was the best option availble) and it would break paint even when he wasn't rapid firing.

The rules? Who's rules? NPPL? Private Tournaments? Who's?

I know they are NOT against NPPL or any large tournament's rules.

So, please explain... Who's Rules specifically state "reactive triggers" and no other distinctions?

[ben_JD]

In answer to the original question, I get a LOT of questions about the trigger and the valve and the electronics on my unelectronic ReTro Automag. I admit that I can shoot it fast, but it does draw a lot more attention than I would expect.

[Patron God of Pirates]

Re: Re: Re: Re:

Originally posted by Verbal138


Well, the rules say that "reactive triggers" will not be allowed, I don't see how there can be any confusion.

As far as my friends cousins uncle.... actually it was my team captain at the time, and he bought it when it first came out, had a 12v revy (which was then called an 18v and was the best option available) and it would break paint even when he wasn't rapid firing.

Lv.10, set up well (which is easy), will never chop paint. People will say that it is still possible, but with a proper set up it is the Magic Bullet argument; Possible? Yes, but that is it. Example:

When I first set up my LX I twist locked a ball 1/2 way in the breach and emptied an 88/4500 tank worth of shots into the side of it. It didn't even warp.

Unlike low pressure systems, LX prevents chopping without sacrificing ROF. And it does a better job of it..

As far as your captains mag, there are a number of reasons he could have had chopping problems. It may have been a non-PF mag, or he may have been short stroking. He may just have had the PF plug out of alignment. With a small amount of practice you can learn to shoot chop free even without LX.

[hitech]

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Originally posted by Patron God of Pirates
With a small amount of practice you can learn to shoot chop free even without LX.

NOT ME MAN! I can short stroke anything. Level 10 was certainly a magic bullet for me!

[Verbal138]

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Originally posted by shartley

The rules? Who's rules? NPPL? Private Tournaments? Who's?

I know they are NOT against NPPL or any large tournament's rules.

So, please explain... Who's Rules specifically state "reactive triggers" and no other distinctions?

I already said it was a local tournament, but it's the MTS in colorado. They're kind of pro-cocker out here, so that could have something to do with it. I just told him he should check with his local tournament series to make sure they don't have it banned.