RT overrated?

[Verbal138]

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Originally posted by Patron God of Pirates


When I first set up my LX I twist locked a ball 1/2 way in the breach and emptied an 88/4500 tank worth of shots into the side of it. It didn't even warp.

Unlike low pressure systems, LX prevents chopping without sacrificing ROF. And it does a better job of it..

As far as your captains mag, there are a number of reasons he could have had chopping problems. It may have been a non-PF mag, or he may have been short stroking. He may just have had the PF plug out of alignment. With a small amount of practice you can learn to shoot chop free even without LX.

Sounds like they've got fixed then, which was my original question. I haven't shot a mag since 97ish, so I was curious.

If you can, could you explain how LX prevents chopping without slowing down your ROF? Isn't the whole idea that if it meets any resitance it pulls back? So that would be burning a shot, and slowing down your ROF, would it not?

What is the bolt pressure on the new mags? I know that I used to break plenty of thin shelled balls even when not rapid firing with my old minimag.

[Gunga]

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Originally posted by Verbal138
If you can, could you explain how LX prevents chopping without slowing down your ROF? Isn't the whole idea that if it meets any resitance it pulls back? So that would be burning a shot, and slowing down your ROF, would it not?

What is the bolt pressure on the new mags? I know that I used to break plenty of thin shelled balls even when not rapid firing with my old minimag.

There's animations, videos, and a bunch of other stuff on the Lvl 10 at: http://www.automags.org/resource/level10/index.shtml

[ben_JD]

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Originally posted by Verbal138
...could you explain how LX prevents chopping without slowing down your ROF? Isn't the whole idea that if it meets any resitance it pulls back? So that would be burning a shot, and slowing down your ROF

The whole point is that it is better to skip a shot than to have that paintball chop. Level 10 does this. Instead of slicing the ball in half and screwing up your next 20 shots, the Level 10 bolt backs off and gets that ball downrange on the next trigger pull with not paint dripping down your barrel and throwing off the accuracy of the next several shots.

Genius.

[Verbal138]

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Originally posted by ben_JD
The whole point is that it is better to skip a shot than to have that paintball chop. Level 10 does this. Instead of slicing the ball in half and screwing up your next 20 shots, the Level 10 bolt backs off and gets that ball downrange on the next trigger pull with not paint dripping down your barrel and throwing off the accuracy of the next several shots.

Genius.

Yes, I know, that's why I don't don't understand how his claim that it doesn't slow down your rof can be accurate.

[Smoke]

Originally posted by Verbal138


Yes, I know, that's why I don't don't understand how his claim that it doesn't slow down your rof can be accurate.

The gun keeps cycling as long as you pull the trigger. Sure, you may get a gap in a string of paint when the LvL 10 bolt bounces off the ball, but the gun keeps firing as fast as you pull the trigger.

[hitech]

What they mean my not slowing your ROF is that the time it takes to fire a paintball with the level 10 bolt is about the same as a level 7. Provided the paintball is properly loaded (every marker reqires this, don't they?) the level 10 is capable of about the same ROF as level 7. It works by having a two stage bolt. The first stage has much less force while the second has much more. This is how the ROF is maintained.

Hope that made sense.

[ben_JD]

Also, the rate of fire of your marker in its normal use is not deteriorated by Level 10. The mechanism involved does not slow the marker down. A properly feeding Level 10 Automag can shoot just as quickly as a properly feeding Level 7 Automag. When there is a paintball in the way of the bolt (half-fed), then the Level 10 will skip that shot and reset.

If you were to take the rate of fire (number of paintballs actually fired from the marker), then Level 10 would be slightly lower if it had to reset due to a misfed paintball. I have not noticed a lower feed rate on the field and smile everytime I hear that little "pfffttt" sound: I know Level 10 just avoided chopping a paintball.

[SyntaxError]

Originally posted by _Spork_1


ahem....

stock 2k2 cocker, for 279, eblade fr 350=same range price of the rtpro

ahem...

stock cocker + eblade = 11 bps at most, the stock internals can't handle past it. Even if they cycle that fast, its not good for the gun.