Cocker Faster Than A Mag??

[T 22 M]

I always thought that mags were faster then cockers but now im not so sure.... cuz my frined was over and when he set his flatline to 800 psi. and didnt run his trig. and shot as fast as he could then he shot my cocker and it seemed that he was shooting faster on my cocker then he was on his RT...

[mykroft]

I know that I can shoot faster on a cocker than a Mag (RT or E-Mag). Doesn't mean the cocker itself is faster.

[Angry Man]

Well, a stock cocker is faster than a stock mag (2003 vs. classic mag, even 2000+ vs. classic mag) in most people's hands. An intelliframed rt mag is pretty fast, though....in runaway mode, faster than any cocker you can get. Still, it all depends on who's firing the gun.

As for cycling speed, the mag is faster. Stock cockers cycle at 10bps, nice mechanical ones go up to 13-14, electro cockers can go to 25, but then there's major shootdown.

[speedyejl]

You get shoot down on a cocker no matter what upgrades you have on it around 14bps, 16bps classic mag, 26bps on a Retro. Cocker triggers can be more adjustable though if its an eblade or say a race.

[mykroft]

Shootdown on a cocker depends on the valve. Most good aftermarket valves have no noticable shootdown until well north of 18bps.

[FalconGuy016]

Absolutly stock, 2003 cockers can shoot faster than stock mags. However, when a mag is upgraded, it can blow past a cocker

[minimag187]

But once you slap on a hinge you can shoot faster than a retro, set the hinge to a few mm. - the full auto sweetspot on the retro

[speedyejl]

My friends cocker when he starts ripping on his E-blade gets visible shootdown with his shocktech rat valve. We swaped it out with a maddman and it was a little harder to get it to shootdown but it did happen. Judging by his bolt open, closed, and hammer release cycle time he is probably shooting around 16bps. I don't think he is maxing at 16bps the whole time, so its probably reasonably lower.

[mykroft]

Try a Red valve or a Tornado. Very high flow rates.

The Shocktech Rat is a good design, for 1997/1998 when it came out.

[Wierd-Guy]

I can shoot a Slider Faster than an Intellaframe. When you add RT's the arguement becomes rather stupid. Sure the mag is faster but its a Apples and Oranges comparison. Now a E-Mag in Semi mode and an Electro Cocker is a fare comparison.

[silenttype]

My E-MAG on hybrid shoots 16 plus no problem.
Fast enough for me.

[Temo Vryce]

The E-Mag has been proven to Cycle at 30bps, show me a Cocker that can meet that.

As for your friend shooting faster on his cocker than on your mag it's just a matter of what he/you are used to shooting.

[FeelTheRT]

this arument is an oxy-moron. Cockers aren't not ment to be fast. If you want to shoot fast, go out an buy an electronic marker like an Angel or Intimidator.

Neither markers can shoot themselves therefore neither is faster than another. Some maybe able to shoot faster on a Cocker, some maybe able to shoot faster on a Mag because they have different feels to them and people pull triggers differently and are used to different feels. ie if you have shot a Mag for say like 10 years, you will be able to shoot a Mag faster than a Cocker. However if you have been shooting Cocker for an equivilant 10 years, you will be able to shoot Cockers faster.

[magmonkey]

I'll race a cocker anyday with my emag

[Reo5th]

Originally posted by magmonkey
I'll race a cocker anyday with my emag

Now here is a great idea!

Think before you post.

Electro versus Mechanical? A HUGE majority of electro guns will blow past ANY mechanical marker.

Even if you are joking, this is really starting to be such a trendy thing to say on this forum..."my mag" or "this mag" Even though this is a mag forum, try not to cary such a huge bias.