flatlines and pro-connects and grease guns oh my

[Jerhew]

alright I realize this has been touched on before but I haven't really found the exact answers I've been looking for so:

first of all
i have a retromag with all the goodies; including a dz3 drop with the screw in adapter, but i just sold my tank because it was a preset (650psi)and i wanted an adjustable tank so i can get my trigger the way i want. i really like the flatline 68/4500...except for the price (and the fact that i'd need a different drop, a slidecheck of some sort and a new line.

I was looking at the nitroduck xstream... it's a screw in and is adjustable... but i've heard conflicting reports of what it's max output pressure is, and since i just sold a tank because i wasnt happy about it's output pressure...it'd be silly to just get another one that i wasn't satisfied with. but if the output pressure is sufficient..it'd save me a lot of money over the flatline(or my 3rd choice, a maxflow) not only the tank itself is much cheaper but the fact that i wouldn't need to buy anything else to use it. is there another tank that would meet my needs...adjustable up to 900+....screw in...not rediculously overpriced...???

ok next question
if i decide to bite the bullet and pick up a flatline or max-flow...
i'd want to just run a longer line from the tank straight to the valve
obviously i'd either need a qd on the valve end or use macroline
regardless of which i use...ill need to be able to bleed off the pressure(since the flatline doesnt bleed itself off when you turn it off)
i've read some threads about the pro-connects and i've used one before...they are nice but again very pricey
and if you have the female end on the tank side...wouldn't that hold pressure in the line like 100% of the time? I don't like that idea if that is the case. my other option would be to use a slidecheck...
yes they are a pain when you blow an oring...but im used to it(i run a remote on my at-85)...as long as you keep them well oiled they work fine. from the research i've done it seems to me that a slide check would be not only more cost effective but make more sense to use than a pro-connect...
thoughts on any of this?

oh ya last thing
i read somewhere that you could use hose from a grease gun instead of macro or braided
the pressure rating is good(3k psi operating pressure) and it uses the same fittings....so why not
has anyone done this with an rt? is the flow kosher?
either that or i'm gonna have to put shrink tube on my braided line so it doesnt scratch everything all up

ok well sorry for the amalgamation of questions...
any thoughts and/or help and/or free flatlines you want to give is appreciated

[cphilip]

I certainly would question any Grease Gun hose or fittings being rated to 3000 psi and even then thats not enough. You often want the rating over the potential pressure it may see. And I do not think anyone would bother to make grease guns to that pressure. Even shop air compressor operated ones would never see over 180 or so PSI. I would think they are more like 300 psi rated if that. I think you should realy recheck that number.

[Jerhew]

well it's actually just something i read on here last night...just kind of stumbled across it during one of my searches
but i figured that's what people would say...
i'd probably just use ss braided with a wrap
but i thought id mention it

[Mossman]

I picked up some grease gun hosing from home depot for 6 bucks I believe. Its 12" I believe, maybe 18, its long, and loops infront of my battery pack.

I havent experienced any flow issues, but my emag's broke.

Oh and phil, its rated for 3000psi WORKING pressure (well over macro/micro, probably the same as SS). It's burst pressure is 12000psi according to the packaging.

I'm probably the guy you remember who said they used grease gun hose.

Dude, I went nuts, when I read your post I was like...when did I make that post? Then i looked at the thread starter and it wasn't me. I'm currently running a flatline with grease gun hose, and proconnect on the valve. I don't think theres 1 other person in the world with a setup like that, and you have the whole thing in your title. Good times :)

[cphilip]

Dang I never would a thunk it! I wonder about the fittings and the way its joined though. Is that rated to that pressure? That may be the weak link!

[Jerhew]

see mods aren't always right

mossman "I'm probably the guy you remember who said they used grease gun hose."

ya it most likely was you
i dunno i did a ton of research last night on the issue
i just have some random notes scribbled down
...
flatline GOOD but $$$
pro connect...sweet but $$$
grease gun line? WTF

lol

[Brak]

yes, i know proconnects are mighty expensive, but they are totally worth it. go to your local paintball shop, and see if they have used ones. i got a used proconnect that works like a charm for $20!

[hitech]

I used a grease gun hose for a remote line for many, many years. It was what "everyone" used before SS line.

[cphilip]

Well this is all news to me! Spank my behind and call me Judy!!!!

Oh no... we are far from 100% Right. We humans and members just like you! Cept we are always right when we BAN YOU!!!!! Muhahahahahaha! :)

[Jerhew]

Originally posted by cphilip
Oh no... we are far from 100% Right. We humans and members just like you! Cept we are always right when we BAN YOU!!!!! Muhahahahahaha! :)

dun dun dun
EEEK! :)

Originally posted by Brak
yes, i know proconnects are mighty expensive, but they are totally worth it. go to your local paintball shop, and see if they have used ones. i got a used proconnect that works like a charm for $20!

yes but like i said:

Originally posted by Jerhew
if you have the female end on the tank side...wouldn't that hold pressure in the line like 100% of the time?

i can see using a pro-connect for a remote because at the end of the day you usually unscrew the tank from the remote and relieve the pressure in the line in the process
but on a flatline there is no way to relieve that pressure
i wouldn't worry much about that on ss braided but i definitely wouldn't want a macroline sitting around with 300psi in it

[yeahthatsme]

get a wgp adjustable, their 290 from www.paintballgear.com and they should have a good range, i'll check what the range is exactly and get back to ya.

[cphilip]

Yes it will hold it. That is how I rigged mine. Several special fittings help to do that too. I came out of the tank with a 90 degree elbow and then into a male to male threaded fitting into the female side of the proconnect (as its female) and then on the male plug side of the proconnect I went right into a female 1/8 thread to macroline fitting (yes they make em but hard to find) then Macro up to the Valve with a 90 degree Macro fitting (swivel). Works great. I think Manike and Tunaman also rigged up about like this. I prefer the proconnect down on the tank and this is the only way. With the exception of using SS line instead of the Macroline. And then you need another 90 male/female elbow and a female/female fitting to do it.

You just turn the tank off or not... but either way you pop the fitting on the proconnect and the pressure pops out of the line and the tank stays pressurized to the fitting if you wanted that to be the case. Easy. the proconnect is designed to hold back pressure on one side. Its like a slide check and quick connect all in one.

[Jerhew]

ya ok that makes sense
hardlining it to the tank would be cool
i just meant if you were to put the female on the tank end but up by the valve at the other end of your macroline
see what i mean?

[cphilip]

No sorry I am not following...

[Jerhew]

instead of putting your pro connect directly on your tank you put the male end directly on your valve
then you'd be holding air in your macroline
(i hate having to explain something in depth that isn't even a good idea to do in the first place )