Auto Cocker Guys

[oneshot]

I know this is an auto mag forum, buy I am sure there are some auto cocker owners in here. I am looking for a backup to my Emag. Which would you get, a Free Flow or a verticle feed Shocktech auto cocker? If I get a shocktech I will probably put free flow internals in it.

Thanks for your comments.

[pntbawlrmz]

oneshot where did this come from, is this the one in two years or did you change your mind last we talked?

[Nitroduck]

Try both and see.....I'd sugguest a Shocktech VF cocker then get AKALMP internals, IMO, if your looking for the best internals, run to AKA. I use thier bolt, its great.

Of course, try before you buy...There are alot of good Autocockers on the market these days.

[Puckz]

I'd go with the Freeflow over a shocktech any day.

[zads27]

Backup to an E-mag is kind of excessive, maybe if your E-mag gets stolen or something hehe..
I recommend using a Bomb 3-way and a Eclipse Blade Trigger frame.. *drool* They bring your trigger pull to almost nothing. (and they made your a/c look sweeet)

[Russ]

I highly recommend the ANS Gen X 3 'Cocker as a backup gun. For $600 with a lifetime warranty, ya can't go wrong.

[Chaos]

I highly do NOT recommend an ANS Gen X 3 cocker. I have it, and hated it, untill I replaced EVERY ANuS part that influenced the guns performance. All new pneumatics, new frame, new springs, everything. The bolt is complete crap, they over anodize it and they get jammed in the back block. You'd spend more money replacing crap parts than you would spend on a nice cocker from the start. There is a reason they're like $450 wholesale....

As for an Freeflow or a Shocktech, I'd probably go with the freeflow, then again I think buying a milled body and putting on your own choice of internals would be the best bet, that way its more your own setup and not someone elses. If you want to buy a pre-assembled cocker, get an Evo X or an Eclipse. I can garentee you will love an eclipse cocker if you get to try one (if you think the blade frame feels good on a cocker, try an eclipse with blade, they're even nicer!). Then again, if you bought an eclipse you'd probably sell your mag, so if you dont wanna do that just buy a freeflow or something.

[Russ]

Well smack me down! Too bad yours didn't work out for you, chaos. Mines great. And if it ever does go bad, ANS will fix it right.

Frankly I just don't get the whole 'Cocker mentality. "Buy a gun and change everthing on it to make it YOURS" Not a flame, I just don't get it.

Maybe that's why I like mags. Just shoot 'em, and clean 'em up when your done.

[FeelTheRT]

well, I say try sever different Autocockers. There are sooo many that you can choose. I personally like custom made ones. They have parts built to your own liking.

[i-luv-my-rt]

Russ in a way your wrong. MOST not all i say do this so that they have a cocker to there likings. Like mine i cant really shoot a standard 45 that well so i bought a hinge. I did this to make the trigger so i could shoot it. But what i dont get is that if you buy a VF shocktech it is alot of money and you would go spend over 100 bucks to replace the internals to get not much of a performance change. But yes shocktech are nice, free-flow is my favorite.

I would go for a free-flow!!

[mykroft]

Having a little experience with Cockers, I will tell you that there are only 3 'Aftermarket' cockers I would purchase. The STO (especially the reissued 99), the Eclipse, and the Evolution (From Belsales), All 3 share the same front Pneumatics, the STO set and excellent internals (By either WGP or Belsales). Shocktech's quality control rivals Kingmans (If you get a working bomb, great, but I've met a grand total of 1 guy with one), Freeflow's are way slow (good luck cycling over 5bps with something running at 30psi), and ANS performs worse than stock (worse front reg, worse 3-way, and slower ram).

Also Buy a Eclipse Blade for it, accept no substitutes. It performs far better than the WGP one (which is nifty, but not earthshatteringly good, like the Eclipse).

[govnamac]

Take a look at the Black Magic. I got one and put the Dye pivot trigger on it and it is amazing.

[grapejuice12]

I'd go with the Revenge v2. Akalmp internals, merlin body. Diff front block for a crisper trigger pull. shocktech bomb 3way. sidewinder reg. can't go wrong.

[FeelTheRT]

I still say go with custom. there's no reason why you should spend the price of a Shocktech Autococker just to replace all the internals with FF parts. By buying just hte parts and putting teh gun together yourself, your saving alot more than you would expect.

[E-Mag man]

I have had ANS parts on my cocker for about a year now and I've never had one problem with them, there my favorite over all. The only part that has been broken was my fault , it was the ram and I put it in my bag carelessly and it got bent. So I think if you just want a backup gun to your E-Mag, get a Gen-X, cheap and one of the best ones in my opinion, it my not be the best looking but it performs the best from what I've seen and used.