Why doesn't AGD do a little self promotion?

[2000Sabre]

Sunwarrior,

You asked me in another thread if I played at Friendly Fire. I tried emailing you my answer you but the address I got from you profile came back with mailbox not found. If you send me an email message I'll reply back. Just don't want to take up space on the fourm with personal chatter. Thanks.

[This message has been edited by 2000Sabre (edited 08-29-2001).]

[PsychoMag]

I would proudly hang a banner high for AirGun Designs. Heck...just send me a banner sticker, and I will add it to my team banner...

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[kenshinkandon]

I think it's nice to see that AGD feels so comfortable with there products and support that they don't need to constantly market there product as being the best because the people who play and use AGD know it the best and stick with it.

[Hasty8]

I liken the AGD products to the Mangusta. Everyone knows about Ferrari's and Lamborginis(?) and such but the Mangusta is generally only known by a small cadre of elite performance driving enthusiasts.

Same with the Mag family of paint guns. Angel and Cockers advertise like crazy while ADG mostly relies on word-of-mouth and tournament advertising.

This creates a small but dedicated following of users and those are the companies that have longevity.

Three cheers for Tom and AGD.

Hurr-ah!
Hurr-ah!
Hurr-ah!

[brian terry]

a magman007 hope u like the banner ,tom im shure just had so much to do at zap he forgot,hope to see everyone at world cup in fla....

[magman007]

oh yes i love the banner thank you again! You guys wanna know what made me buy my automag? Magazines! apg promotes enough in magazines that i bougfht my automag! the one add in apg with the rt pro is what made me buy my rt pro! the other thing was that i saw a lot of people using them and i had herd apg had a good rep! well thanks again terry i appreciate it!

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[Flamebo]

What do you think this site is all about?

[2000Sabre]

Before I let this thread die I just wanted to add one more thought. How long to you think AGD would last if they relied only on word of mouth? If they have only a small cadre of loyal users, how long is it before this small group moves to other markers because they can't find parts or their local pb shop doesn't stock AGD parts and products.

If we're relying on industry magazines to spread the word forget it. I don't know about you but have you've tried to find a paintball magazine in your average newsstand or bookstore? It's difficult or impossible for a casual buyer to find one locally.

Maybe this is why we see many posts on this forum asking why are people buying angels or cockers or someone else's latest product. I think it's because the masses don't know who AGD is? But if you asked the average person if they know who Amazon.com is or who Nike is they know, whether they read books or buy athletic products. That's because these companies have established brand awareness.

I know there are other avenues which AGD uses to advertise, all I'm asking is why don't they seem to help themselves by providing this type of stuff without having to ask for it? Why isn't it available for sale on their web site?

Just food for thought.

[shartley]

2000Sabre:
I think you will like reading this... it covers some of those issues.

http://www.automags.org/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000024.html

[2000Sabre]

Shartley:

Thanks for the link. Was very interesting material. It's a little ironic that this afternoon while waiting for my car at the shop there was a front page article in the local community paper highlighting the reporters first experience with our sport. Very positive page and half story. Also, right next to it was another paper with a story about three teenagers being arrested for using their markers to terrorize their local community. With morons like that out there no wonder we never seem to get ahead.

Anyway, always enjoy a topic which promotes good healthy discussion.

[Hasty8]

Originally posted by Chaos:
I work at pimpIT.com, you may have seen stickers around your town, I know you have if you live in southern cali. Anyways, thats what made this company so popular, about every other week we get in shipments of thousands of stickers, we hand them out to our reps (which we have hundreds of), at our sponsored events, to friends, and include about 5 with every purchase someone makes. Newspapers have done articles about all the 'vandalism', with pimpIT.com being the #1 culprit (sp?), since we give out all the stickers people put them EVERYWHERE. Freeway signs, gas stations, cars, everywhere, but since we just give them out free there is no legal action, except it gives us a lot of representation when someone sees a sticker that says 'pimpit.com', then they go and check out the site.

Regarding your misconception of no legal action. I can't say about CA but in NY , any company's sticker or advertisement found on a traffic sign or other such devices of public information can now be held accountable. This came into code about 5 years ago or so. Start up music labels were putting up stickers everywhere to promote their new albums. Especially on speed limit signs and exit signs of a lot of the local freeways and such around and in Manhattan. Cause a few accidents and a lot of lawsuits. Now, sticker use is practically illegal in NY. I only see the cardboard signs stapled around poles and such.

You may want to check you local areas code books to make sure you are not doing anything illegal. All you would need is one accident and an eager attorney to ruin your day.

Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law.(this is not meant as a flame, just that that is what the courts would say if you pleaded ignorance.)

[2000Sabre]

Hasty8 makes a good point. By no means would I and I hope any other AO member advocate putting stickers or anything else in places where they don't belong. I'm just looking at this as way to let people know we're proud that we carry and use AO products. If done propoerly it's a win win for us and AGD.

[Dubstar112]

my field also gives away many stickers, but there is no agd ones because they sell them

and since i got my gun used along with my flatline..... im deprived of stickers. lol

i ended up buying some and i hope a sticker comes with the i frame!

[magman007]

I find paintball magazines in my local book store and at my local news stand, i cant see why you wouldnt be able too? and any paintball player who has ever been to a large tourny knows who and what agd is! the agd buuth is usually the most popular booth there b/c people just walk by and gawk at the ingenuity of design and workmanship!

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