NEW HALO DESIGN IDEA... (pic)

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  • PsychoBaller
    Gone are my SFL days...
    • Nov 2000
    • 1952

    #16
    "I do declare"......

    I would probabaly buy one of those if you made them.... get a fire lit under Edward to make those such models instead, lol

    ~da baller

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    • Ryknow
      Proud pneumag owner.
      • Nov 2002
      • 816

      #17
      this would be cool for all of the people without warps, but as for the people using warps, ever put a egg II on one and shouldered it? it is basically in your mouth. HALO should make them like this and the other version, depending on whether people dont want it set back as far and throwing off the balance on your gun a little bit. Or if they have a warp and can outshoot a revvy. Just my $.02.
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      • Havoc_online
        www.havoc-online.com
        • Feb 2002
        • 2851

        #18
        looks pretty cool and I'd probably buy one :)

        However first thing that comes to mind is the battery life and spring tension this design is going to have. Remember the HALO counts on a small to no ballstack in order to feed at high rates. In order to keep up, the design may either need a different type of spring, operate at a higher power, or something else that I havent thought of...

        (nice work though :))
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        • personman

          #19
          It looks like sence it is pushing the balls up, then hitting a curve and going down, it might feed slower than usual...

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          • Jack & Coke
            TUNAMAX No. 1
            • Jul 2002
            • 2644

            #20
            Originally posted by Havoc_online
            looks pretty cool and I'd probably buy one :)

            However first thing that comes to mind is the battery life and spring tension this design is going to have. Remember the HALO counts on a small to no ballstack in order to feed at high rates. In order to keep up, the design may either need a different type of spring, operate at a higher power, or something else that I havent thought of...

            (nice work though :))

            Of course there are going to be technical hurdles to overcome. The idea was to start with a concept and then engineer a solution. (low-profile without having to WARP - better balance and less weight)

            I have a warp and love it for it's low-profile benefits. Although it is VERY VERY comfortable while shooting using a two handed hold, it's way too uncomfortable when held with only one hand (i.e. running, sliding, standing, etc.)... the balance is off.

            Start with this idea... if you had to put a hopper "on top" of the marker, where would the best place be?

            I thought, well, how about as low as functionally possible and as far back as possible without having it hit you in the face (given the average dimensions of todays most common tournament markers).

            From here let's think about making it work.

            Before, design started with what was easiest to make function. "Form follows Function"... er sumtin'?

            How about "Funciton follows Form!"

            Where Form = low-profile hopper.

            and Function = AO Think Tank figures it out

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            • PsychoBaller
              Gone are my SFL days...
              • Nov 2000
              • 1952

              #21
              Well......

              Considering I doubt Odyssey will pick up this idea...... SOMEONE GET WORKING.... on prototypes for the WHOPPER posted a few days back... and this modified HALO Version.....

              ~da "i want one of either" baller

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              • Yamz
                Just Yamz
                • Mar 2003
                • 161

                #22
                rember the halo b is belt driven so the motor is not directly under the impeller by angeling it up like in your first one you fill up too much space from where the motor would sit (at least i think thats where its at i would have to look at mine again i cant remember and i too tired to find mine right now) and you second design would be the exact same as just cutting down the feed neck although i will give you an A+ for trying its people who are willing to try things and except their failers that may one day create great things
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                • Jack & Coke
                  TUNAMAX No. 1
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2644

                  #23
                  Photoshop fun...

                  Update...

                  What do you think?

                  A. You're on the right track... keep going... I like the design.

                  B. I hate it. Go back to the drawing board and try again...

                  C. I like it... but with a few design changes (i.e. try to shorten the feed neck as much as possible)

                  D. Get back to work and stop wasting time on the internet... :)

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                  • Jack & Coke
                    TUNAMAX No. 1
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 2644

                    #24
                    This is how it looks on unseen's uber Timmy... :)

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                    • FutureMagOwner
                      Registered User
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 3354

                      #25
                      well they could always make special halo pull pins they already got special halo feed tubes

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                      • Russ
                        Senior Membrane
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 1935

                        #26
                        Well, once you get past Odyssey's patents, I know of a plastic injection mold company that would gladly build the molds for you, that is, when you get the $250,000 or so for the molds...

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                        Last edited by Russ; 03-26-2003, 04:43 PM.

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                        • Jack & Coke
                          TUNAMAX No. 1
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 2644

                          #27
                          pfft... only $250,000?

                          Pocket change!

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                          • darklord
                            missing my matrix
                            • May 2002
                            • 2105

                            #28
                            That is a great idea, but it just seems incredibly unbalanced to me, with the feed tube being all the way forward and all...

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                            • Ultimator
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                              • Apr 2002
                              • 1389

                              #29
                              I don't know ... I don't like it. I think there would be some serious balance issues. Maybe it's just me.
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                              • Jack & Coke
                                TUNAMAX No. 1
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 2644

                                #30
                                regarding "patents" remark

                                Do I need permission from Odyssey to make an aftermarket part? (i.e. shell and catch cup)

                                What about all of the after market bolts, pins, regs, triggers, eye covers, etc. that are available today? Do they also require permission from the original product manufacture? (NOTE: I'm not disagreeing, I don't know the answer, so I'm asking)

                                Right now, I guess you can cosider this the "wishful-thinking" brainstorming phase. I see no harm in dreaming up a design. If, and I stress IF, it every progressess to a proto-type phase, I'm sure we can worry about "legal" and "construction cost" issues at that time.

                                In the mean time, why the knock down comments? Why the negativity towards dreaming up an idea and having fun with it?

                                Maybe someone with some money, CAD/CAM expertise, access to cheap production, will give it a try. Who knows...

                                From: http://www.epsilonindustries.com/html/pricing.html

                                CAD/CAM => mold creation ~ $1,000 - $2,300

                                *All pricing is in US Dollars and includes 30 parts from black ABS stock material (other stock materials available) with a standard delivery of fifteen days. All orders must be prepaid. Pricing is based on samples and varies according to model complexity, mold finish, quantity, and material requirements. The mold insert(s) are yours and are returned with the parts unless otherwise specified. Additional runs from same tooling are priced at $0.65 to $2.85+ depending on part, quantity and material plus $385 setup charge...
                                This was from just a quick search... I'm sure prices could vary.

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