making the emag smooth while firing.. how?

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  • boomerfoxtrot
    MOOSE
    • Aug 2002
    • 1565

    #1

    making the emag smooth while firing.. how?

    I'm going from a GZ ... yeah, the trendy, cheep spyder clones to an EMAG... I'll shoot my GZ then shoot the emag and I notice that the EMAG has a LOT more jump to it while shooting...

    Is there anyway to get this jump under control and make the gun smooth?

    also, does the XMAG have this problem?
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  • Cristobal
    vox clamantis mag
    • Mar 2002
    • 454

    #2
    I would expect that the lower mass of the lvl 10 bolt would help keep the gun from moving as much when it cycles (as compared to the standard bolt). Since the X-valve comes with lvl 10, I would expect you would see this benefit.

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    • Dayspring
      aka- The Day Wang

      • May 2001
      • 9664

      #3
      Jump? What jump? I don't notice anything.

      I would imagine that the Emag has more moving mass during the firing cycle than the GZ does. So that's probably what you're feeling.

      My advice? Hit the gym.

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      • personman

        #4
        rar boomer, if I can handle it, you can, and thats that.

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        • Havoc_online
          www.havoc-online.com
          • Feb 2002
          • 2851

          #5
          it's either in your mind or your just more confortable with the GZ but the LX Emag will have less recoil.
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          • boomerfoxtrot
            MOOSE
            • Aug 2002
            • 1565

            #6
            maybe it is in my mind.. I don't know...

            If I ever get the LX to work without dicking with it every week I'ld be happy...

            but the LX keeps pissing me off!!

            I had it set and it worked great, dry fired it 100 times or so, no leaks, shot fine.... let it sit for a day, the batt on the emag died so it's charging now, but when I gass it up... it charges the valve, but only fires once then it has nothing.. I crank the Voc up and it vents out the back, and still nothing.... ahhh.. I hate this..
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            • JEDI
              We beat pump players
              • Jan 2002
              • 1859

              #7
              I seem to be having the same level 10 problem. Its made me very "gun shy" of my Emag. I'm almost hesitant to call it my primary marker. The LX will work when I dry fire it at home, and even while running a hopper of paint through it. As soon as its go time at practice, I get barrel leaks, bolt stick, all kinds of rediculous BS.

              In the past few weeks, I've gone from a 1.5 to a 1.0 to a .5 carrier, and back again. I'm really losing faith in my Emag, and I've put so much into it. Its become a running joke within my team. TOM! anyone! Please help me out! I dont want an $1100 paper weight.
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              • Skoad
                Registered User
                • Feb 2002
                • 3265

                #8
                if your fed up with it...i'd like a $1100 paperweight...

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                • Mossman
                  habitual line stepper
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 3751

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JEDI
                  TOM! anyone! Please help me out! I dont want an $1100 paper weight.
                  I wouldn't mind an 1100 dollar paper weight

                  I don't have LX issues at all, but its just getting warm so I havent used my mags too much over the winter.
                  Anyhow, oiling up the carrier o-rings is always good. How many shims you running? I forgot to put shims in my retro mag before I left for the field on tuesday, and i left without em, but it hummed all night and didnt break any paint. It bounced off and reset one or two times, but the Halo took care of my nicely . I believe I have a 1 carrier in there, I'll check later
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                  • Reo5th
                    Sold Angel StillHave Rebel
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 539

                    #10
                    I had similar LX issues...kind of a pain to work out

                    just buy an angel!

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                    • Phil
                      Registered User
                      • May 2001
                      • 506

                      #11
                      It is not in your head. AGD guns are no where near as smooth as timmy's. You wouldn't notice it unless you shot both. I didn't notice the kachunk of my tippmann until I bought my RT. Man was that RT smooth compaired to the tippmann. Then I shot my friends Impulse and I thought wow, my Emag sure cycles roughly compaired to this impulse.

                      I feel your pain with L10. I installed it in 3 markers and had trouble with all 3. 2 of them I gave up on and sent to AGD. I finally got L10 working in my Emag after days of finageling. Hell, one of them had to be sent twice because even AGD didn't fix it the first time. If your one of those lucky people that the planets aligned for and L10 works well then more power to ya. I have a friend right now that is struggeling with his L10.


                      Good Luck

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                      • Dayspring
                        aka- The Day Wang

                        • May 2001
                        • 9664

                        #12
                        Why, so I can have a $2000 paper weight?

                        Originally posted by Reo5th
                        I had similar LX issues...kind of a pain to work out

                        just buy an angel!

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                        • BlackVCG
                          Grubby Owner

                          • Oct 2000
                          • 4956

                          #13
                          The reason that Mags have so much "recoil" is because they dump so much air so quickly. The air builds up behind the ball due to the ball's inertia and this cause the air to expand in both directions. This is why you feel more recoil when shooting paint than just air.

                          If the Mag was a low pressure dwell controlled gun and had the same moving mass bolt, it would be the smoothest gun on the market. There's more to recoil than the moving mass.
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                          • JEDI
                            We beat pump players
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 1859

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Skoad
                            if your fed up with it...i'd like a $1100 paperweight...
                            For $1100 Its yours!
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                            • ChucktheMAGician
                              Back at it
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 1855

                              #15
                              I'm so glad to here that lx is causing someone else weird problems I thought it was just me, have it working fine Friday night, and then have to use another gun Saturday at the field because it's leaking somewhere or not firing. What's weirder is that my emag works great every time but my no rise retro causes problems. Oh well, I'm still not sure whether it's the user or the machine!
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