the st!ffi barrel...is it what its cracked up to be?

[DWill]

Have any of you shot this new barrel called the st!ffi? My brother is thinking of buying it after he read the aid in APG. I told him i would do research on it so see if it was worth the money, which is precisely $129. Has anyone shot it, if so what is your opinion on it. For those who havent seen the barrel ad's the site is http://www.sitemfg.com/store/moreinf...TOKEN=14071916 and the ad in APG May 2003 states that it makes for the most accurate shots in the game, proven to be quietest barrel on the market and is the stiffiest barrel on the market. Tell me if it lives up to this!

[HoppysMag]

well they are only for cockers now but when mag or phantom comes out ul have my review

[cledford]

[ezrunner]

well

I don't think that we decided the barrel had NOTHING to do with accuracy.

Your gun will shoot better when you have a good paint to barrel match. Beyond that you do not want to try to "spin" a ball along any axis.

A lot of people make claims of all sorts of nature, you need a good consistent air source, a good paint, and a barrel that is sized well for that paint.

-rob

[DWill]

My thoughts exactly...kinda boastful ad. with no proof...and that girl amber holding the barrel didnt help... Well im glad I went here I'm gonna suggest to my bro that he doesnt buy the barrel and wait for more info to come out about it. Thanks for the info guys.

[cledford]

Re: well

Originally posted by ezrunner
I don't think that we decided the barrel had NOTHING to do with accuracy.

Your gun will shoot better when you have a good paint to barrel match. Beyond that you do not want to try to "spin" a ball along any axis.

-rob

I would say that a good paint to barrel match *might help your paint travel the same distance downrange, but other then that:





-Calvin

[ezrunner]

emperical testing

Calvin.....

I think you are taking this slightly out of context.

Take a marker of choice.

Then take a tournament grade paint, and a freak system.

Now get a piece of poster board for each insert and on the back write in the size of it and the paint type.

Now shoot a hopper of through each corresponding insert at each board with a chrono under the barrel.

You now need to log the consistency of each insert and measure the diameter of the circle and take a pic of each circle.

You should have one insert that has a smaller circle and a better consistency.

-rob

[Army]

Having got to play with a dealers sample a few weeks ago, I can say: that any 2.1oz barrel is great! We put it on a MicroMag with an Xvalve, and it proved that they know about proper porting, you could plainly hear the bolt slapping back and forth with minimal blast from the muzzle. We next put it on an Orracle, and I have NEVER heard such a quiet gun.

One of the store sponsored team members bought it on the spot, and is impossible to find/hear him on the field. Accuracy is actually above par in his particular Cocker with it, we have all shot it extensively (even switching barrels during this "test") and came to the same conclusion. The bore is very slick, and the thread adapter/back-piece is well made and very secure to the barrel.

Overall, I would not hesitate a moment to have one on my gun....just as soon as they make 'Mag backs for them

[ezrunner]

also

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34429

Check out the shot groups in his data thread.

I don't think Tom Kaye will tell you one barrel is best for all paint or that the barrel has nothing to do with accuracy.

-rob

[DWill]

Even if it is a good barrel a still think their advertising was a bit boastful, basically saying that their barrel was the best. I woulda had no doubts had they put up some scientific proof but all they said was, quietest, most accurate, stiffest barrel on market. But any way who am I kidding I dont have $129 to speand on a barrel anyways, im happy with my new 12" CP 1 piece barrel.

[-=Squid=-]

OK, I think I am the only person here who has used the barrel It shot nicely. Pretty good groupings, about like every other barrel...what I think makes it special, is its near 100% NON metal, even the end of it that holds the threads it plastic... Its SUPER light, pretty quite, and again, shot well...I would still recomend the freak, but if you dont want an insert barrel, this one is definetily a keeper...you wont regret the perchase, and also, its only like $90 at our field...thats 130 is just the msrp...

[IcantBelieveit]

plus that barrel is just plaing ugly

[Spaceman613]

Im pretty sure the threaded portion is aluminum. It shoots just as well as any other quality barrel, but the weight is the cool factor. It didnt seem to shoot thru breaks too well (evil yellow paint).

Sound was like any other ported barrel in my opinion. its a great barrel for cool factor, but its not the best value by any means.

Yes, i have one sitting in my living room, used it for the past two weekends, semi and pump.


bottom line, buy it if you want a cool barrel, not if you want to be a better player.

[cledford]

Re: also

Originally posted by ezrunner
http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=34429

I don't think Tom Kaye will tell you one barrel is best for all paint or that the barrel has nothing to do with accuracy.

-rob

I think he pretty much would - or at least say that a $129 dollar barrel doesn't SHOOT $1 better then a $40 dollar stock.

-Calvin

[ezrunner]

dude comeon

Hey, admit you were wrong.

The barrel has a lot to do with accuracy, I've shown you quotes and charts from Tom Kaye to prove it since you cited that source to start with.

Either do the testing and prove me wrong or drop the argument.

BTW - My favorite barrel for the money is the Lapco Autospirit.

I kept saying size match. You need a good match and a good internal finish. Now if someone wants to spend 85 bux more on the tube that is their call.

-rob