mags or cockers?

[DYE-BaLLeR]

which is faster

[Cha0tic]

depending on the setup, either one can be faster. in my opinion, a stock cocker is slower than a stock mag's trigger. a finely tuned and upgraded cocker can shoot as fast as top end electros.

[Dave]

I am not sure, since I have not used a Cocker, but it probably depends on the setup a lot(2x trigger, PF, etc) and the user. I am happy with my mag, and I still need to practice shooting fast...it will come in time.


Wonder if my signature appears...



-Dave

[FooTemps]

Like I said before...Both should be fast as hell when you set them up correctly...up to the point of outshooting a revvy...

[oneshot]

Footemps is absolutly right.

[z-zero]

I have owned both, and just recently got a MinimaG, Its so much faster, though I have'nt retrained my trigger finger yet. Though as everyone has stated its all in the setup or preference.

z-zero

[Cha0tic]

if you haven't owned a very nice cocker for a while and have learned to shoot it, you will not be able to get it as fast as you can a mag. both trigger need to be "learned", but are equally as fast when upgraded correctly.

take in to consideration, we are talking about standard vales, not the retro valve.

[TheTramp]

If you want to use a "very nice" cocker you should compare it to an RT/Retro. I've never seen any other mechanical gun shoot as fast as an RT/Retro in the hands of someone who knows what they're doing. Sure someone with a nice cocker can get it on but the reactive trigger has the edge. When I think of high ROF it all about RT/Retros and electros.

[Aliens-8-MyDad]

well, this is wierd you would post something trying to compare a differnt gun to a agd gun considering this is Automags.org...

[FeelTheRT]

I think both can be shot just as fast (with out trigger job)if you get used to it. I used to be able to shoot Automags pritty damn fast but I've adapted to a smooth pull of a Cocker over the past few months. At this tournament a few weeks ago, my Cocker broke and i had to use an Automag. Luckly it had a 2x trigger because it seems as i have forgot how to shoot an Automag, I could barely top off 5bps.

But most of the time, Cockers do have faster triggers with all the different parts and mod available.

[DYE-BaLLeR]

LIAR!!!!!!

[BOOT]

One thing not mentioned here yet is the new Hinge trigger from Worr Games. I have a STOCK 2001 (non STO or Black Magic) cocker with the hinge trigger and it is EXTREMELY fast. I would say that the Hinge trigger IS the fastest mechanical trigger out there (and very difficult to short stroke). Granted it isn't as fast as an electro.


Just my 2 cents.

[Drizit]

I recently got my hands on someone's 99STO with the Eclipse hinge trigger on it, I (and everyone else who tried to) promptly proceeded to outrun the revvy. (even mykroft. ) I can get it going faster then Mykroft's retro /w intelliframe. now if they could get rid of the moving back block I'd consider getting one (but instead I'll just get a new lens for the moment)

[DYE-BaLLeR]

LIAR!

[InfinatyBPS]

Stock cocker triggers are sweet. I have mine and its realy nice, I dont know why people keep saying that cocker triggers are slow, I have no problem shooting fast. I short stroke the heck outa the trigger and no choping or anything. I love the sliding trigger so i think im not gonna get a hinge for a while but when i do im getting a Dye Chrome hing those look soo cool. But anyways cocker = long, light, smooth, mag= short, stiff, snappy. Its mostly preference.