ULE ANGEL detent stops my bolt!

[JEDI]

Why does my Angel detent on my new ULE stop the bolt on my Emag, and cause the level ten to kick in? The LX set up worked moments ago with the stainless no rise body. I can look into the feed tube, and see the bolt getting stuck on the detent. It looks like part of the actual detent housing sticks into the breach. Not to mention the detent doesnt allow the ball to fall all the way into the breach. This really infuriates me. I'm sorry, but if its not one thing, it's another with my Emag.

When I shoot paint, I can tell the gun is double feeding. First no shot/bolt pinch, then second shot is a double feed, and two balls fart out of the barrel. Has anyone had this issue with their new ULE body? Is there a better detent I can buy? This is rediculous.

[joeyjoe367]

Try backing out your detent a bit. I just got my ULE and it's on that rubber thingie, so it doesn't have to be on that tight.

[cphilip]

Did you actualy try and do anything to it to fix it or did you just come here and panic?

First lets see if its sticking or something. Can you easily depress the ball into the detante body itself? Is it sticking? Drop a bit of oil on it if it is and work it in back and forth some. See if it free's up...

Tell me what you got. Sometimes they stiff and or something is in there thats causing them to be too stiff.

[joeyjoe367]

Hm...I actually just noticed that my detent won't let a ball sit 100% in the breach. I backed it out a bit, but I can 'still see the bottom of the bolt..

don't have any air on me to test, but I'm betting it won't really matter if I have a decent ball stack going.

[Mossman]

I don't get it. Why can't you just keep backing it out until it does let a ball in the breech?

[joeyjoe367]

...cuz otherwise the ball detent will fall off the gun, silly

I think I'll just toss a washer or another o-ring in there.

[JEDI]

Originally posted by cphilip
Did you actualy try and do anything to it to fix it or did you just come here and panic?

First lets see if its sticking or something. Can you easily depress the ball into the detante body itself? Is it sticking? Drop a bit of oil on it if it is and work it in back and forth some. See if it free's up...

Tell me what you got. Sometimes they stiff and or something is in there thats causing them to be too stiff.

Come on Phil, I know you dont know me, but I'm not your typical 13 year old AO idiot. There's not a single stock part on my Emag, I know it inside and out. So yes, I tried muliple "fixes", But there's too many variables with the LX. Like I said not only does the housing stick into the breach, but the "oiled" detent doesnt let the ball drop all the way into the breach. Actually, I'm hoping it is the detent, and not some other problem with the new body.

Thanks for the help ahead of time guys. Phil, look, a smilie I appreciate the help.

[Havoc_online]

I HATE WDP detents.

what spring are you using?

[rehme]

yeah my friends gun had that prob also so he just put a oring on the detent so it wont stick all the way out

[cphilip]

hehe... I was just bustin your chops cause you was sorta soundin like a school girl there at first!

No seriously you still not told us what you have tried yet. I am currious! We need to get some experience with these things and learn from them. May be some changes we need to make and all. These are new.

[manike]

Do you have an o-ring between the detent and the body?

You can use an o-ring (and washers if required) and tighten against it to get the depth right.

[JEDI]

Ok, The LX setting is. .5 carrier, 2 shims, small spring (smaller than cut spring). The gun shot well at first with a Halo. I noticed double feeding a bit. The bolt didnt reset once or twice, so I thought it was the LX. I tried a larger carrier, thinking it was too tight, (as you can see I run a small carrier). That wasn't it. I swapped back to the original LX set up when I noticed the bolt getting caught on the detent. What if the detent housing wasnt sticking into the breach, I still have the problem of a stiff ball itself. Oil didnt help.

Yes, I do have the little O-ring between the detent and the body. Maybe some kind of spacer is needed. Damn though! shouldnt the detent allow the ball to drop all the way?

[xXmouthXx]

If you have the ADG detent then it is supposed to have two o-rings. A thin one and a thick one.

[cphilip]

Sure, it should not even be hitting the detante until its all the way in there though.... this is realy odd.... is there any way you can get pictures of this or measurments? Soon as mine comes I may be a little more aware of what you are talking about or at least we can compare measurements in case yours is wrong or something.

[Darkstorm]

Interesting

Thanks for the post. I just checked my ULE that I got today and when the ball drops in it does not "bottom-out" there is about 1/16 gap at the bottom. I can push the ball down with a distinct push. A Halo might generate enough force to push it down but a ball stack would not. Once I do this, ball will not fall out. I need to use my finger to pop it out or actual turn the gun over and shake it to get it come out.Obviously there is zero play between the dent and the ball. Hmmmmmmm.....I'll have to look at this carefully this weekend.