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  • jeffremiller
    Team Invictus
    • Jun 2001
    • 575

    #1

    Pump Kit Questions...

    I've built a nice mag pump and I've started trying to tweak it a bit.

    Since the kit didn't come with a bumper... I reused the blue one on the classic valve. My only complain is that it requires more force to recock it with the pump.

    I removed the blue blumper and just used the spring. Very nice pump action... but it want to occasionally recock on it's own.

    I tried trimming it down so it fit inside the waffle spring... then it was better but would still ocassionally recock on it's own.

    Then I saw the thread about PT Spacers causing bolt stick so I opened up my valve and found a good old style PT Spring. I tried taking that out... works but occasionally recocks on it's own.

    So that's where it stands. I have a functional pump with a hard pump stroke or a great pump stroke on a semi-semi-auto.

    Any ideas how to get the bolt to consistantly stick without using the blue bumper... it's close... just need that last bit to keep it from recocking. I considered cutting a turn off the bolt spring but wanted to pose the quesion here first.

    Ideas?
  • jeffremiller
    Team Invictus
    • Jun 2001
    • 575

    #2
    Cool!!!!

    Used a RT Bumper and it's just right

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    • Lee
      Team Trigger Happy
      • Nov 2002
      • 2395

      #3
      i use rt bumpers too. no problems at all.

      Florida peeps...step up!!
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      • jeffremiller
        Team Invictus
        • Jun 2001
        • 575

        #4
        Cool!!!!

        Used a RT Bumper and it's just right

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        • cphilip
          Former Moderator

          • Jun 2026
          • 16216

          #5
          Ahh... so the clear bumper fixed this then? Good to know.

          I have not run into it yet but I am about too. If my pump rod would ever get here..


          AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

          cphilip.com

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          • Lee
            Team Trigger Happy
            • Nov 2002
            • 2395

            #6
            cphillip...did you order from silverfox too?
            he's two days away from getting a bad trader listing from me.
            no rods after weeks and no answer on my request for a refund.
            go here: http://www.paintballmaxx.com/customworks/index.asp
            5$ shipped. call and you can order w/ credit card.

            Florida peeps...step up!!
            My Feedback
            "They do not preach that their God will rouse them a little before the nuts work loose."
            -Rudyard Kipling: The Sons of Martha
            "To understand the Automag, you have to think like an air molecule."
            -Sparky Melber

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            • lopxtc
              Unix Geek
              • Oct 2001
              • 2706

              #7
              Lee -- hey man its been about two weeks for me also .. no response and no money or rod. We have what we think is his home address. So I intended to see what I can do about this.

              Originally posted by Lee
              cphillip...did you order from silverfox too?
              he's two days away from getting a bad trader listing from me.
              no rods after weeks and no answer on my request for a refund.
              go here: http://www.paintballmaxx.com/customworks/index.asp
              5$ shipped. call and you can order w/ credit card.
              Team Managed Aggression, Missouri Paintball

              Pround owner of a 2003 Shocker, and AO.org user ... an almost unheard of combo.

              "Love, Peace, and Shonen Knife!"
              AOLIM - lopxtc

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              • cphilip
                Former Moderator

                • Jun 2026
                • 16216

                #8
                Yes I did and no reply from my last email and he told me he had them when I asked. So I dunno... Might be some kind of problem with him on his end. Lets give him a little while to see. The five bucks doesn't realy bother me its the waiting and not having one to finish is the issue.

                I didn't know that Brad made em or I would not have bothered with this other joker.


                AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                cphilip.com

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                • Lee
                  Team Trigger Happy
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 2395

                  #9
                  thanks lopxtc, let me know what you come up with. i'm in your corner.

                  cphillip: your a moderater right? can anything be done about this guy?
                  from what i've seen, some people get thiers and others didn't.
                  silverfox posted a thing about his wife being sick last week. i emailed him with best wishes and another request for info about my order. no response in a week.

                  brad was nice and to the point on the phone. was even willing to ship 2-3 day ,i payed usps priority rate over and above the 5$ per, since i'm desperate to get them, but his price is the same as silverfox....5$ shipped. i have some projects to finish that are lacking only the rods(hint hint nod and wink if anyones looking for pump mags :-))

                  Florida peeps...step up!!
                  My Feedback
                  "They do not preach that their God will rouse them a little before the nuts work loose."
                  -Rudyard Kipling: The Sons of Martha
                  "To understand the Automag, you have to think like an air molecule."
                  -Sparky Melber

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                  • cphilip
                    Former Moderator

                    • Jun 2026
                    • 16216

                    #10
                    I know Brad. He is a Factory AGD tech as well. He is a good guy and does good work. I shoulda asked him first realy.

                    I think Silver has always been good but something happened so I am going to give him a little time to redeam himself. If its something serious I do not want to go making things bad for him.

                    I may give Brad a ring anyway though.

                    You know Brad does a tremendous job on low rising high rise center bodies too. He did a batch of them for me.


                    AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                    cphilip.com

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                    • Lee
                      Team Trigger Happy
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 2395

                      #11
                      cooler heads prevail...i guess thats why you're a moderater huh? you're right of course.

                      i'm sticking with my powerfeed. old fuddy duddy that doesn't like change....i made an exception for retro valves and lvl x's though :-)

                      are there plans to ever have a tech class in central florida?

                      Florida peeps...step up!!
                      My Feedback
                      "They do not preach that their God will rouse them a little before the nuts work loose."
                      -Rudyard Kipling: The Sons of Martha
                      "To understand the Automag, you have to think like an air molecule."
                      -Sparky Melber

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                      • jeffremiller
                        Team Invictus
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 575

                        #12
                        As far as pump rods.... I made mine... got some stainless steel rod from a buddy and just bent it up to match the blueprint.

                        I have found that making them a bit longer than specified is a good thing (in my opinion... ) just a tad longer... not a lot.

                        J_

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                        • cougar20th
                          Registered User

                          • Sep 2002
                          • 2330

                          #13
                          lately ive had the same recocking problem as you have. i will have to get a rt bumper and try that.

                          as for rods. i have both one from silvedrfox and one i made out of a metal coat hanger. i perfer the one i made because i was able to tune the length of the pull.
                          this is what i did to adjust the length of pull. used a cut up bic pen cap. it may not work with a correct rod.
                          Originally posted by dano_____
                          I keep forgetting to not feed my mags after midnight so they seem to multiply regularly.

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