AGD Blazing a Fashion Trail in Paintball Land??

[WARPED1]

I'm pretty sure AGD was the first company to release a no rise.
I agree with the 90* space frame thing, I never thought it looked anything like a z grip.

[Jonesie]

I don't wanna get off on a rant here, but...

AGD led the charge in alternative grip frames, and I think that's the point Tom is trying to make.

AGD was the first to realize (or do something with the realization) that paintball guns were not meant to be held like pistols, at arm's length from the body. This is the basis for which the 45 frame was designed. Rather paintball guns are held closer to the body, requiring the user to cock their hand and wrist at akward angles to acheive a 'comfortable' firing grip.

Thus the Z-Grip was born to combat the problem. And at the time, the concept was too radical and was shunned by many in the paintball industry for being too different. This industry is A LOT like high school: Everyone wants to stand out, but no one wants to be different, players and companies alike.

But low and behold, WDP puts the space frame on an Angel and everyone has to have one. So AGD does it, it's no good, but WDP does it and it's genius!?!?

For those of you who hate on AO members for 'blindly following' Tom and his opinions, yet those same people who like the space frame; maybe you should take a good look in the morror...

Later ~ Dave

[Xen]

lol then i can say tom folowed the pack when he made a "flashy" colored marker, he followed the pack when he decided to have weight issues revolve around his new products, he folowed the pack with ACE, clamping feednecks, cocker barrels.

[cphilip]

Seems like no one got the point? His point was how all of the manufacturers are coming to a center of consensis. And some of them are things of his and some of them he has adopted as things that work and things he wanted to stay with because they worked beter than the more glitzy options others chose to pursue. And how they abandoned some of them and came back. He realy doesn't apear to be talking so much about "firsts" or claiming all of them as "Firsts" at all! And all he is about saying here is how the more things change the more they become the same.

Go back and clear you mind of the last few pages and re-read CAREFULLY what he said. I did and it takes on a whole new meaning of what he was trying to say that seemed to get streached out into something else later in this thread. A lot of which OTHER people attributed to his comments that are not realy there. Go see if you don't see it in a different way after that. Without the follow up comments by others JUST read his statement without trying to read between any lines what he may have ment...