Tom? OfficeGal? Price Change!!??

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  • deathstalker
    Fnord!
    • Jun 2002
    • 1115

    #16
    sneakyhacker420, in about 10-15 years you might be old enough to understand common business practices. Companies do not usually pick some arbitrary number and assign it as the price of an item. There are MANY, MANY, MANY things a company takes into account.

    First and foremost for a manufacturer is the cost to THEM to produce the item. They will then look at other things such as how many items they expect to sell at certain price points. They will look at their margin to see if their pricing is in line with it. They will look at how their other products' sales might be affected. They will consider the depreciation of their facilites and equipment, and also the cost of employing a full-time staff. I'm sure I haven't even scratched the surface of what AGD considers when they establish pricing for their products.

    I work for a company that produces enterprise software. When a company purchases our software, we send it to them on a CD. Do you honestly think that we are going to charge them the pennies it costs to burn a CD? Heck no, most companies end up spending MILLIONS to implement our software. We have several thousand employees to pay each month and I happen to like the paychecks I get so I don't think twice that customers spend so much on a "computer program."

    You're 14 years old. Until you spend more time in the real world, please keep your mouth shut. It's not AGD's fault you can't afford it, so don't complain to them. It's not Paintball Sam's fault they need to spend a lot of money on insurance, so don't bring them into the picture, either. You'd also be surprised how mature some of the people are who bring in small paychecks. Now you see how important it is to stay in school, pay attention, go to college, and find a good job.

    One thing you can control is your own purchases and savings. Maybe you shouldn't have bought that hinge. Did you complain to Eclipse about their pricing? Did you tell them that if their hinge had been cheaper, you would have been able to afford a sluggo?

    What is it with kids these days? I guess my parents just did a better job of raising me. I know I didn't behave this way when I was a teenager. If I needed more money, I asked for another loop at the golf course I caddied at. At the time, I received $10 for 18 holes. That worked out to about $2.50 an hour. Even now with a well-paying job, I have to save up for some of the things I would like.

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    • Russ
      Senior Membrane
      • Jul 2001
      • 1935

      #17
      seems just the other day SH420 was begging Tom for an X-Mag, with a custom serial number

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      • Dayspring
        aka- The Day Wang

        • May 2001
        • 9664

        #18
        All I'm hearing is "WAH WAH WAH. I want this. I want that. Gimme gimme gimme."

        Do what the rest of us do when we need something. SAVE.

        Grow up and quit whining...

        BTW- I doubt Tom is losing sleep over your one sale... The companies that are producing slug bodies will MORE than make up for you.

        Originally posted by sneakyhacker420
        heres the story

        first slug introduced (not over valve): $100 :)
        2nd gen. slug when introduced (over valve): $130 :)
        2nd gen. slug now(over valve): $150


        its more than the cost of the ULE, and its unmilled, and has no ball detent or feedneck... and i have a friend willing to machine it for me and all, and i would really like to have him custom machine it for me instead of getting a ule, which i personally think are ugly :o

        and a $20 difference is the difference between getting it now and waiting 2 weeks for my next paycheck


        AGD! quit jacking up the damn prices! i know you're doing the thing if the market will pay it, you will bring it to the edge of ALMOST not selling... the way almost every business works... but... there really cant be that much of a demmand for these sluggos right now... especially that you just jacked up the price... you may have just driven me away from buying one

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        • ddinwdc
          Registered User
          • Apr 2003
          • 59

          #19
          I got a great idea!

          Let's all gang up on a fourteen-year-old! Oh wait, we're already doing that. Sneaky, save your pennies and buy the Wang's "Butterfinger Special"! Another stellar post, DB! We can always count on you to lead the zelot charge! This forum oozes congineality

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          • Dayspring
            aka- The Day Wang

            • May 2001
            • 9664

            #20
            Re: I got a great idea!

            You know what? You can say what you want about AO when you become a contributing member to the community. Until that time, please keep your derogatory comments to yourself.

            Originally posted by ddinwdc
            Let's all gang up on a fourteen-year-old! Oh wait, we're already doing that. Sneaky, save your pennies and buy the Wang's "Butterfinger Special"! Another stellar post, DB! We can always count on you to lead the zelot charge! This forum oozes congineality

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            • PsychoBaller
              Gone are my SFL days...
              • Nov 2000
              • 1952

              #21
              Re: Re: I got a great idea!

              Originally posted by Dayspring
              You know what? You can say what you want about AO when you become a contributing member to the community. Until that time, please keep your derogatory comments to yourself.

              I 2nd Daysprings comments. Stop complaining like a bunch of babies. Get a job, bank some money and SHUSH....
              Also, people new to the boards should not be flailing their derogatory comments around.

              Anyways, there is not point complaining about something that most people are only gonna buy once. Buying something consistently is one thing.... but an invididual that doesnt have access to a mill doesn't need to pick up multiple units.

              So quit ur whining, loose ur ego's and chill.

              ~da baller

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              • hardr0ck68
                I miss Tom
                • Oct 2001
                • 783

                #22
                my only issue with the price increase is how can you make a custom sluggo and price it competativle with the ULE bodys? I am going to buy one, maybe 2, but i was planning on trying to sell them like tuna and the others, i have a design and its half in the machine....but yeah the price increase is gonna put raise the price i can sell the finnished product up to or over $250... i was hoppinh to keep it around $225ish blah....well i guess i will see what demand will be for them....pics and more info to follow in a few weeks (hopefully)
                Tom was the last of a now extinct breed, a breed of players who build a community, a breed of owners who gave to the sport never taking more than what they deserved. I hope to see you at the feild again some day....

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                • fire1811
                  Firefighter
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 4930

                  #23
                  if you could produce a cheaper slug im sure tom would be interested in hearing about it
                  "The Few Who Do Are The Envy Of The Many Who Only Stand And Watch"

                  Alway Remember *343*

                  Si vis pacem, para bellum

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                  • Dayspring
                    aka- The Day Wang

                    • May 2001
                    • 9664

                    #24
                    Just remember- ULE bodies aren't meant to be competitive with the Sluggos. ULE is for the people who want the weight reduction without all the fancy milling. Since they are just plain tubes, that's why he can sell them cheaper.

                    When it comes to the Sluggos, people know that not only are they paying for the materials and coloring, but also the milling time done on them. So, naturally, you are going to pay more for that.

                    So, in effect, Tom is targetting two different customer bases here. The people who like "vanilla ice cream" and those who like "Rocky Road."

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                    • ddinwdc
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 59

                      #25
                      Actually, "Wang",

                      I can say whatever I want to say, regardless of any arbitrary rules you want to apply. But here's an arbitrary rule for you. Until you officially turn in your membership to the ten-pound bench-press club, you can keep YOUR opinions to yourself.

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                      • dansim
                        ive been busy
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 4479

                        #26
                        maybe you should have ought it when you saw it for 130...or perhaps you should sell something...or better yet go cry in the corner


                        wow you went from a new member to a loudmouth hated one in only 21 posts i appluad you it took me well over 1500

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                        • automan39
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 246

                          #27
                          dude if u wanna whine bout being 14 and u can't afford this accessory or whatnot. go cry bout it. u have three stinking guns right now. and u should be grateful that u have them. all i hear from u is me me me. stop ur stinking whining
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                          • hardr0ck68
                            I miss Tom
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 783

                            #28
                            whooo, can you feel the tension? and i do understand what your saying dayspring, but i think if the goal of agd was to get many different custom bodies out for there markers then they would try hard to keep the overhead low. I would just like to hear a reasuring word from someone on the AGD staff. But yeah i know, for sure that with a $100 or more differance in price in a finnished ule to a finnished sluggo, many people are just going to go ULE and save there cash. such is life, and i understand, i just want agd to know that this IS going to effect my decision to make production sluggo's and i definatly wont make as many.
                            Tom was the last of a now extinct breed, a breed of players who build a community, a breed of owners who gave to the sport never taking more than what they deserved. I hope to see you at the feild again some day....

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                            • Dayspring
                              aka- The Day Wang

                              • May 2001
                              • 9664

                              #29
                              Re: Actually, "Wang",

                              You never had a single date in high school did you?

                              I mean winning personality and everything. WOW. Total package here boys...



                              Originally posted by ddinwdc
                              I can say whatever I want to say, regardless of any arbitrary rules you want to apply. But here's an arbitrary rule for you. Until you officially turn in your membership to the ten-pound bench-press club, you can keep YOUR opinions to yourself.

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                              • fire1811
                                Firefighter
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 4930

                                #30
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                                Alway Remember *343*

                                Si vis pacem, para bellum

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