How about an Autococker Forum??

[Thordic]

tell that cheap bastich Budd Orr to run a sister site

[SoupRman]

plain and simple, if it stays free i like the idea!

[Riot[Z-Grip]]

I'm sorry, but I'd have to say No.

I like the fraternity and brotherhood associated with AO. People here generally have the same values and more often then not keep the level of conversation up to a fairly high standard. I would hate this place to lose this unique feeling it has that we all love. I wouldn't be opposed to the "Other Gun" forum idea, centralizing all the random other gun questions. I'm just afraid that if we open up too much that we would also corrupt the fundamentals of this forum. Also, with all this letting members be allowed in R&D, what would happen if you got people on here that were biased against AGD? Sorry for being so long-winded and pessimistic, just bringing some ideas to the table.

-Riot

[skipdogg]

Tom......No

I see your logic, but its not a good idea. AGD needs to worry about their own products and loyal customers. Your going to reach a broader base of customers through word of mouth from people like us, and players seeing mags in action. Cockers and Angels have come up on posts at AO before and are free to do so in the future. Most of us are mag biased, but we dont bash cocker or angel people (too much). Anyway, the point is this is a refuge for MAG owners. i think your heart is bigger than your head on this one. Remember too, not all people are open minded. In fact most are set in their ways when it comes to paintball markers. You can't change everyone Tom. Let's just work on what we got!!!

[bornl33t]

I look at this idea with mixed feelings. ON one side it's a huge idea. The increase in members and more info etc. But on the other hand... I've just about droped off AO because there are too many ppl here... I joined AO back before AGD hit. When AGD bought it up I was like... "yeah!" but now AO's lost everything I joined up for. MAG-info, a small exclusive and knowlageable comunity, clean PG forums, none of that fancy mumbo jumbo like sig pic, smiley's ( arg )

Ao's become a PBD.. without the 400 forums... but we're gettign there too... so in essence...it's PBD all over again.

I know this is what I, ME MYSELF and I, want. I know it's against anything that AGD would like for this site. Because the more members, the more advertisement gets read, the better PR agd can practise, the more guinea pigs AGD has. Because I want to promote the sport I can only hope that more ppl hear of AGD's friendly staff and costumer service and public immage as a "responsible" organization.
SO I suppose go ahead... but I will pry not be around one of these days....

[Nobody]

I don't like it

while yes, the idea of such a section has good intentions. but you will then bring down the idea of having AO. this place is for Automags, and its family of guns. if this where open to everyone, what's to say that it won't deteriorate into pbnation or any other forum that has gone down the wayside, because of the garbage that will come?

i enjoy coming here, because i can talk shop about Mags with people that have Mags. if i ask a specific questions, like my trigger is hanging, or my sear isn't ingaging, then someone won't have to ask, what kind of gun i have. that in itself is good.

sure, you want people with an outside view of mags to help with the evolution of the gun. most people here know and love the gun as you give them. but someone that doesn't like or is indifferent to them, may have an idea that would or could be benifical later on. besides, i see a lot of people on here without Mags and people with other guns in addition to their mags. i should know, i am one of them.

right now, my forum, the Tippmann Forum, is inindated with many questioins other than Tippmanns, which is fine, but it gets tiring. i know mags pretty well(but not as well as some of you), but when a question is asked, most people give the knee jerk reaction to them. i go in, correct the previous statements with facts and asnwer their questions. Tippmann, has no rule against other guns or questions, as it maintains that it is a paintball forum. not Tippmann only. but to me, i see almost half as many questions for Tippmanns as guns other than. stay to one thing that you want and know, Mags. but if someone comes here and asks a question about another guns, don't chase them out, answer there questions, and if they choose to stay because of the environment then its one for them.

so that's my .02 cents to the matter.

[Army]

errr...no

Tom, what we have here right now is a success beyond what I ever thought it would be. I too, am from the "old" AO days and must relate then with now.

The old AO was very small in terms of members, yet we all got along very well because we would come to the aid of a newbie, or someone totally confused with their marker, in a helpful and generous way.

When you bought the site from Flamebo (& Co.), we were all very skeptical about the direction it would go. After all, one of the biggest names in the industry just started his very own web-site to promote his very own company. We had visions of banners, pop-ups, forums on every conceivable aspect of the sport, and the flood of PBC types spewing their silly range stories.

To our surprise and delight, you kept the quiet deportment, the advertisement free pages, the god-like knowledge, and the simple single theme forum. This is what has attracted us here and kept us here, (I won't mention the contests and give-aways that no other site is capable of pulling off!). The failure of nearly all other paintball sites, is that they become too diverse and lose the "oneness" that originally attracted posters.

We are Automags.org, we never pretend to be anything else. To have other brands of guns with their own forums and mods would fail the family attitude we have strived for. There are enough members with 'cockers and Angels and Spyders (I'm one) and such that any question or problem posted is quickly taken care of anyway, without having to resort to their own forums.

I hate to say, that Deep Blue has become an Albatross. While some wonderful cranial worship has happened there, it has also become rather stagnant. These same thoughts can be addressed and discussed on main or FC. While I cannot prove it, I am sure DB has resulted in many members resenting terribly, that they could not be a special member there. This is what I believe will happen with "other guns" forums.

Let's keep Automags.org as is. Let us instead get agreements have prominent links to Autocockers.org, WARPIG, SpyderOwnersGroup etc...and vice/versa. Perhaps a bright, colorful links page.

Just my $.02

[mitch]

i likeit.
i would like to know more about the impulse and emag.
but i can;t find anything about the impulse.

[Mega Man]

geez...this is turning out to be a civil war between AO, part want one thing while the ther another (maybe im blowing this out of proportion but oh well ) , anyways im nuetral

[pumpamatic]

I think the idea sounds good, but it may get complicated. For example, while you are running the Fantasy Emag contest, 3 of your prizes are Intelliframes. What's a cocker owner going to do with an Intelliframe? Probably sell it, but now you will have to offer a variety of prizes, or just not include Mag-specific products. Keep in mind that you can't just boot tons of people because of what gun they own if you don't like the results you are getting. Once they are here, there's no getting rid of them.

[X-Plosive]

I don't like this idea at all Maybe you can create a completely different site and keep it top secret that it belongs to you.............I juts don't want AO to become so big.....It's already big enough as it is and must I remind you that there is like a 5:1 ratio, cocker owners to mag owners.

[InfinatyBPS]

I...

personaly think it would be a keen idea. Mabe it is just because I have an autococker. But many people that come to this board also have an autococker and I feel kind of stupid about asking my Cocker questions on the main forum of a Mag Site. I think it will benifit everyone. I say just add and extra forums for Cockers. It will rule, mabe an Angel one too. Please don't add a blowback forum there are plenty of those around already. I would love for there to be a Cocker forum for us to get away from all the mag biosed opinions.

[FooTemps]

I don't think you should do this. In the end you'll just end up closing the forums for other markers just like how 5thgenmaximas closed it's 1st,2nd,3rd,4th generation maxima forums. I'm referring to the car Nissan Maxima. Not to mention you'll get more flames on the forums that way...

[Tunaman]

Please NO Tom!

How about another forum called "Other Quality Guns"? That should suffice to keep happy anyone else who happens to arrive at this great site you have created. The family type atmosphere we all enjoy here could be compromised by the silly antics of other "outsiders". And as far as the contests' go...you could still have them. But contests need rules, and the 1st rule would be that you must have a REGISTERED AGD marker, With serial # posted in your sig. That might sell some guns! To lose what you have gained already would be a great injustice to all our members. I have completely stopped visiting other sites, due to the cursing and plain old mannerless talk that I would find there. The Dojo should be all the reason you need to forget this idea. I love this place...and all you guys. Please don't ever take that away from me. We ARE spreading the word Tom, I see it more and more everyday. AGD Rules! Long live AGD!

[User]

Although it would provide a more central point on the 'net to talk about 'cockers, rather than the many other forums that have sprung up due to PBC's pay system, I'd have to disagree with the addition of forums for other markers. As said, it would increase and benefit AO.org in member base and such, but when we think automags.org, we think of a place to discuss aspects of the AGD product line in most cases.

The community here is the most valuable aspect of the site, or any site for that matter. I have visited AO enough in the past year to see the change and fluctuations within the community even just with automag users. Not to say that's bad though. I just feel bringing in "non-AGD" product forums would only create more of a limit to the community in social terms. The reason why this community feels like a family is because we all share a common interest in AGD and its products, and mainly because 95% of us own AGD products or have at some point. We can relate. Instead of this site being one small community, it would most likely split into however many other forums are put up for other markers. I personally would like to see autocockers.org become as active as AO. The site has a lot of potential being hosted with a to-the-point name instead of an autococker forum off of some diverse megasite...or one where you have to pay to read and post.