Super Light Mechanical Trigger Update

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  • askman
    Registered User
    • Feb 2002
    • 463

    #31
    I used to be IPSC shooter and gunsmith and shot a lot of 1911s. The trigger that I setup would be about 3.5lb for the competition gun, but very snappy and clean. I had it down to 2lb, but it just felt too mushy to me. My main gun had 4lb trigger on it. I would be happy with snappy clean trigger, even though it weighed a bit. My swing frame cocker is setup that way, and I am more than happy with it. (I use kapp frame, set to about 4lb trigger, and get almost 10bps, fast enough for me) If I can get mag to do that, I will definitely get one or two to retrofit my mags. I love all mechanical markers, (even though I have emag, only electro that I have) I liked cocker only for that reason. My guess is that it is probably leveraged sear system, being able to be retrofitted to all mag body rails.sign me up.

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    • Marchborne
      Res Ipsa Loquitur...
      • Aug 2002
      • 251

      #32
      Originally posted by spantol
      Tom-

      A humble suggestion, regarding the "fashionable" paintball community: Screw 'em.

      ...

      Personally, I'm thrilled about the prospect of lighter mechanical trigger, and I'll be ordering the day it hits the store.
      WORD.

      I had my newly-ULE'd RT out for Sunday morning (switched to the Xmag after the lunch break), and people (even those with electros)were impressed with the rate of fire. I was fanning like hell. Drop the pull weight by 66%, and you betcha anybody could "fashionably" walk the trigger with the best of 'em.

      Remember, if the cost of a ULE mecha-mag could be kept below the cost of most electros, but with a comparable trigger pull, you will sell product.
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      • Wc Keep

        #33
        as much as i love my benchy i wouldnt mind giving one of these a go. tom rest assured ill be the first to own one and ill be the first to record 13 bps with a non-retro mag.

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        • Hexis
          Green Mag Freak
          • Sep 2001
          • 2427

          #34
          Fanning is out of style? I'm feeling old...

          Meh, I say, Meh!

          Even with an EMag on the way, I'll gladly pay to beta test this, and not whine about it. Just as I did with level 10.

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          • temps
            starcraft?
            • Aug 2002
            • 546

            #35
            I'm also one of the people who are going to buy this as soon as it comes out, Just one question. Will this work on standard valve mags or just retro ones?

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            • Micromag man!
              Registered User
              • Jun 2001
              • 183

              #36
              hehe, i too want one.. i have a benchy and i could have bought ANY marker i wanted but when i say my micromag about 3 years ago i had to have it...... osmething about my benchy make me choose it ovver any cocker or electro... my bushy (which i bought for a primary and my mag for backup) is siting in my closet right now i wouldnt trade my mag with benchy for any other marker.... exept for a mag with one of these beasts LONG LIVE MAGS!!

              o and ps... dont be down, those who say fanning is for lamos r just jealus cause they cant get a good rof faning like u
              bring it!

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              • nerobro
                Registered User
                • Oct 2001
                • 923

                #37
                Wow, this is a much bigger reaction than I expected. I didn't think the gun would fire on it's own as you degassed because the bolt force would be ballanced by the on/off even as pressure dropped. These spring Ideas... as on/off force dropped the gun could well fire on it's own. course you've done the testing ;-) And it's not something I"d screw with at home.

                Either way, you can put me down for one of the trigger groups ;-)

                The whole lawsuit thing is a bit concerning. Do companys like shocktech get sued when a shocktech bushy fires itself? it's standard legal practice to sue to make sure the blame goes the right place... or so it seems. That just seems a bit ... I dunno, I don't have the word for it. Then again legal matters such as these just tend to be "that" screwed up.
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                • Micromag man!
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 183

                  #38
                  it is 66% lighter, but is it as short as an i frame shorter or longer?... i cant wait..
                  bring it!

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                  • cdawg
                    not your average dawg
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 289

                    #39
                    When I first bought my RT I had no clue how people got these insane rates of fire (10-13bps!). I found fanning the trigger extremely difficult, even with 950psi and a .740 on/off pin. Over a period of about a month I started "working out" my fingers, tapping forcefully on everything I could. In total sincerity... it worked.

                    I have spent enough money on my ULE RT (cosmetics and performance upgrades) to buy an Emag and have a few hundred left over. My point is that I would rather have a lighter mechanical marker than its heavier electrical counterpart; trigger pull set aside.

                    I am readily awaiting the Supermechanical Trigger Upgrade. Thanks Tom for not forgetting us mechanical AOers.
                    Respect that.

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                    • joey d
                      yes, I run akaowners.org
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 2030

                      #40
                      i would be more than happy to wait out the items cooking on the front burners for this lightweight trigger and pick one up first batch for testing.

                      1/3 less pull.. hey, i would be happy with 1/8th less pull, anything thats less is more
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                      • xadamx
                        SplatBrothers Paintball
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 715

                        #41
                        i personally am extremely excited and will definatly pick one of these things up. keep up the good work tom and team

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                        • hitech
                          Not a shedder of vortices
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 4775

                          #42
                          Can someone explain what "fanning" a trigger is? I know of lots of techniques to increase ROF, but don't know what they are called.


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                          • lamby
                            A.K.A Spanker
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 394

                            #43
                            Hey, give me the trigger just so I can adjust the reactivity of my trigger on the emag (I am sick of having my trigger pin screwed in to the point where the emag can not shoot in manual mode. (I keep the pin in there so I can degass and disassemble the gun without having a on/off launched into orbit, or break it trying to gt my valve out.

                            Still looking for more info on manike's mod to prevent the "one pull two shot" problem that emags are plagued with.
                            Last edited by lamby; 05-01-2003, 10:20 AM.

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                            • joey d
                              yes, I run akaowners.org
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 2030

                              #44
                              hitech..

                              i asked the same thing.. got my answers here:

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                              • Miscue
                                Super Moderator

                                • Oct 2000
                                • 7105

                                #45
                                Originally posted by lamby
                                Hey, give me the trigger just so I can adjust the reactivity of my trigger on the emag (I am sick of having my trigger pin screwed in to the point where the emag can not shoot in manual mode. (I keep the pin in there so I can degass and disassemble the gun without having a on/off launched into orbit, or break it trying to gt my valve out.

                                Still looking for more info on miscue's mod to prevent the "one pull two shot" problem that emags are plagued with.
                                ?

                                That would be BlackVCG if anybody.

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