jon, i hate to think that all the work and effort as far as this meet goes would be "wasted" on low turnout, but i am displeased to read your thoughts on future meets, even ones that are planned to have adg personel. i can only imagine the frustration you feel but instead of focusing on the negative realize what kind of committment some of these aoers are making to attend. airfare and hotel is not exactly cheap ya know, some people are putting fourth a serious amount of effort in attending, its annoying to see you poopooing on their efforts. frustrating or not, the "im taking my ball and going home" attitude reflects very poorly imho. if thats the kind of attitude your going to take, i say fine, stay home and build some more xmags.
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Maybe if you guys would come to the west coast or even midwest I'd go. As it is I can't afford to fly across country for a megameet.Sorry, I'm oldComment
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star base cgi i think you mis understood. hmmm...its like where to start. lets try college student who sells back books to buy this years books. well see thats me. oh wait no its not i was the kid who the books changed edition and they wouldnt buy them back. so i had to put more money down to buy my new semesters.Originally posted by Star_Base_CGI
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Some people goto college rent equipment and they dont get vacations. Those are the college students that sell last years books to pay for this years books. These are the coloege students that actually know how to work for a living.
As for people who are unemployed. Looking for a job is different than working forty hours a week. Looking for a job is alot harder than working a job. If you dont have your daddys friend to higher you, than your going to have to work work work to find a job. Youll be tired from Searching at Monster.com or OPM.gov and youll want to play some paintball but obviously your not going to have the money to play alot.
My opinion that is you try to make the best of things. If you have a low turnout. You use that opportunity to build a 1 on 1 customer relationship. People will go out there and talk about it. Word gets around.
If you say stuff a sock in it and Im not playing. People will say your a poor sport. Youll come off looking like the bad guy. Thats why the call it work. If we could all just sit back and let money rain down from heaven none of us would have to work or look for a job.
Im not any kind of expert at this or anything. Im just saying sometimes things arent easy.
We should'nt expect life to be easy.
sorry daddys friends dont like me cause they think im a punk with too much attitude. so i went and found myself a part time job that suites my needs. MY PARENTS DONT PAY FOR PAINTBALL!! they dont pay for paintball because they dont think its something constructive. they sometimes help with my soccer equipment and thats when i ask them (which is rarely) i own my own equipment and its nothing bottom of the line. sorry i got rid of the spyder a while ago. (not bashing spyders.) i pay for my paint EVERY WEEK. yes i do play every week.
so yeah after i pay for my credit card bill, and pay for my field and paint for this weekend. im going to work 30 something hours to get a paycheck large enough to go to megameet.
oh and if you guys didnt notice agd doesnt coordinate the events they go to.so why dont you guys stop complaining about agd not going to the west coast, and actually get together with your fellow ao'ers and organize an event.Comment
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oh yeah and besides the fact that jon doesnt build the xmags, just remember that theres more to agd than paintball, meaning the xmag doesnt have to be made. they are making it cause we want it. everything agd does is for us. so wy dont we show them a little appreciation and hold up to our words. we were told 4 months ago this was going down, was it that hard to mark it on our calendars....Originally posted by logamus
jon, i hate to think that all the work and effort as far as this meet goes would be "wasted" on low turnout, but i am displeased to read your thoughts on future meets, even ones that are planned to have adg personel. i can only imagine the frustration you feel but instead of focusing on the negative realize what kind of committment some of these aoers are making to attend. airfare and hotel is not exactly cheap ya know, some people are putting fourth a serious amount of effort in attending, its annoying to see you poopooing on their efforts. frustrating or not, the "im taking my ball and going home" attitude reflects very poorly imho. if thats the kind of attitude your going to take, i say fine, stay home and build some more xmags.Comment
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Ok this has gone far enough. We are going to go on with the meet and whoever is there will have a great time. We will be bringing lots of goodies that we will be selling way below retail.
I will also be bringing some prototype stuff for testing and evaluation from the people that are there (but if you tell anyone I will have to kill you..)
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...and the fisherman baits the hook...
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Then how do you explain SC AO's great turn out? Not in a densly populated area and people traveled from far and wide.Originally posted by madmatt151
.... Planning these events in a densely populated area is the reason there were large turnouts...
Fact is when you plan these things they do not always promote themselves. It takes daily reminders. And preregistration does not solve it. What happens then is people wait as they are unsure what might come up. You can have preregistration (and we did for SC AO) but you offer a discount if they do. But this still does not insure a turn out. People come without preregistration and some preregister and do not come. There is no solution to this but to take a chance and to heavily promote it. Its work and there is no way out of it.Comment
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so you going uncle phil?You are the Wormtongue of AO.~bofh
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I am trying to. I still not sure about my situation to go back up there so soon. It's a financial question. I had to just go up there for something that came up after this was planned that was very important so I do not know if I can now. I certainly want too! Will have to see.Comment
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I also mentioned that Megameet wasn't hyped enough. But of all the people who played at SC AO Day, what percentage were within a 2 hour drive, and what percentage actually had a long trip in?
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I will have to go back and tally that Thordic. I still have all the sign up sheets so I can look at the address's and tell that. But without looking I would guess at least half of them came from more than that. And perhaps 3/4.Comment
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Personally it's a combination of factors. I really want to go. However, it's about oh...lets see....1600 miles away or so. So I could drive two days there and two days back. Or I could fly. Then there's hotel and paint and all that. Easily a grand. Or I could fly. But if I fly I'm not old enough to get a rental car. Yet another problem.Comment
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Hotel issue- Don't you worry. There's still floor space SOMEWHERE in the AO rooms. As it is, it's going to be Hotel Dayspring all weekend long. I've got 5 people in there every night, so the cost is around $23-$25/ person. If you can share rooms, the cost is DRAMATICALLY cheaper.
Rental Car- Also- no sweat. I'm making 2 runs to Pittsburgh Airport and possibly one to the train station. We can handle transportation to and from where you need to go.
If you can arrange everything else, we can handle the Pittsburgh stuff.
As you can see, some of the "issues" are really non-issues. Now get your butt out here!
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Muz offered before to do airport pick ups and I am now offering to turn my truck into a shuttle bus service. Getting back to the airport might take some work, but PM one of us if you need pickup/dropoff assistance.You are the Wormtongue of AO.~bofh
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Hell, I even offered my hotel bed if that's what it took to get somebody out to the Megameet.
Yes, that's right. I will take the floor if that's what it takes to get people to come out. If we run out of room, then I'll sleep in the truck.
I think Wyn, myself and Muz are going to be designated taxi people. (which is REALLY funny cuz I don't know my way around Pittsburgh at ALL!)Comment
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