Good/Bad ICD guns. Bushmaster

[Catch22]

Hey everybody, I'm thinking about selling my autococker and getting some type of bushmaster. because i'm just too damn lazy to keep pulling and letting go of that trigger all the time. I was looking at the 03 w/o the PDS and thought it was pretty nice. Can you guys tell me some good or bad things about the B2K2 or maybe the 03 but don't tell me to get the shocktech, because I buy reduced lunch at school. Could anyone maybe compare the trigger to the viking or like a black dragun or some other electro.


Thank's everyone.

[einhander619]

I have a b2k, a heavily modded one, and it flat out rips. I love it. There's a lot of new parts and technology coming out for them right now, and you can get them for cheap used. You can get the PDS, but there's a mechanical anti-chop coming out called the SP mod, kinda like lvl 10. As far as the trigger goes, the '03 frame's trigger rivals the ir3's for adjustability. As far as shooting it goes, it will mop the floor with a black dragun, and it's definitely on par with a viking.

[demonguy8]

Your probably better off getting info from people on the indian creek designs forum on pbnation. (since more people there will have experience with them)

That all being said... get cocker threaded barrels (like $50 extra) since ICD barrels are rather hard to find in stock and almost no one resells them online
Other than that my B2k3pds is CRRAZZZZZZZZY fast! Its everything I liked about an intimidator in a cheaper package. At a 3man tourny last weekend my chrono readings where 268,267,270,263 or in other words +-3 fps WITH A LOOSE BARREL/PAINT MATCH!!! great consistency.

I had some problems initially with trigger bounce but this has been solved by ICD and was only a problem with the first runs of the 2k3 bushys soo its not too much too worry about....

I would also suggest checking www.pbreview.com and you can read the reviews on the marker.. (such as my full review)

Hope this helps some

-Jason of ISU Redbirds

[Josh2Xtremes]

Great 'guns!

I've shot various Bushmasters since the Bushmaster 2000 came out and they've always shot great. Reliable, easy to work on and customize and very lightweight. Very soft, smooth triggers too. For the money it's hard to beat an Indian Creek Product.
Josh

[Timmee]

I love mine. Mine's a 1st gen. BM2K that I'm slowly upgrading. It's only chopped once in 2 days of play, and it didn't even give me a problem during AO NE (rained almost all day).

[ezrunner]

pds

Well, if you can fork over for it PDS is great. Chopping is gone entirely.

The newer boards let you shoot up to 24bps if your feeder gets paint in that fast.

It's your call, I don't know what kinda cocker you have. The bushy will be a touch taller but a little lighter. I love my black bushy and shoot it all the time.

Be careful of the wiring in side and keep good batteries in it.

-rob

[LawFox32]

I recently bought myself a bushmaster, I am really liking it, very fast, light, consistent(AKA sidewinder); mine is beautiful; it has some light milling done to it and is annoed blue and black acid wash,
accurate but thats with matching freak so good but expected;

peace out

[Catch22]

anyone know any bad things about them? thanks BTW

[Josh2Xtremes]

Not really "bad"

While I've never had any problems, the only real complaints I've ever heard about any of the ICD family of electros is the side-to-side play in the triggers and that the stock regulators aren't fabulous. Just what I've heard, I personally haven't experienced any problems.
Josh

[ezrunner]

regs and such

When used properly they are great guns.

The stock regs are ok, keep an adjustable tank on it and only feed it 450 psi if you can.

The wiring harness is fine, but if you happen to stretch it you can break a connection pretty easily.

When taken care of, they are fine the way they come. Just lube and shoot.

-rob

[covadsucks]

What about gas autonomy gentlemen? The Bushy is not very gas thrifty straight out of the box...

[ezrunner]

covad

Sup covad, we met at MGO, I was down there playing for NCPA and talking to Load

Anyway, the efficiency out of the box isn't bad at all. You can count on about 800 - 1000 shots from a 68/3000 or better.

With a new valve that goes up to 1000 - 1200 shots.

-rob

[covadsucks]

Yeah I remember, how's it hangin'? (Shoot Load for me.) My new Defiant was horribly bad for gas autonomy...I couldn't get more than 8 pods and a hopper from a full 88/4500 LP output Crossfire tank.

(This was with a Vapor Valve and Sonic LPR kit. But throw a Sonic Frame on a Bushy/Defiant/BKO and it's on!!! I miss that frame.)

[ezrunner]

well

Wow, I'm not gonna comment on how that sounded :)

I'll shoot jeff next time I get a chance.



8 pods & a hopper = 8 *140 +200 = 800 + 320 + 200 = 1320 shots

hmm

I get about 1100 shots from a 68/3000 with the macdev red valve. I am also running the new board that does 24bps. It may have a lower dwell or something. I know the older ones you had to turn up dwell to get rid of first shot low problems.

I've never really fallen into the vapor camp but I never really got any of their products either.

I guess mileage varies. I know that I used to shoot 1000 shots from my 114/3000 before I upgraded it, but that is a lot of air.


-rob

[covadsucks]

Aw man...I just re-read what I wrote and you are so right it sounds bad... I think perhaps I'll stick with my 2k2 and my soon to be ULE Emag...