CPX shut down?

[Star_Base_CGI]

Go post annoying stuff to the people at CPX, on this website.

http://www.challengepark.com/feedback.asp

[joez]

thank you star_base, at least some people understand.

if anyone was planning on coming out to cpx this saturday, feel free to come up and talk to us, we will have our two grills out and will be grilling up some good food.

[shartley]

[Skeletar]

Shartley, why are you taking this so personal? Why are you getting so into this problem?

[fire1811]

i really dont think hes taking it personal he is just
stating it from a different point of view.

and i cant really say he has posted anything i really disagree with.

just a different point of view is all

[fire1811]

oh and shartley i am now putting you on a time limit!
you have exactly 28 days to finish up your e/xmag grips
im waiting...........

[shartley]

Fire is correct, I am not taking it all that seriously. I am however pointing out that what folks think they did, and the effects of it has thus far only hurt THEM, and when push comes to shove, BE will not lose. People need to decide what is really important and what will do them good or harm.

Originally posted by fire1811
oh and shartley i am now putting you on a time limit!
you have exactly 28 days to finish up your e/xmag grips
im waiting...........

[demonguy8]

K a few comments...on econ


1. When the economy is in a recession (as it has been since 9/11) people are going to spend less, and all non-essential purchases will bear the brunt of the decreased spending (like paintball). This means less NEW players are going to be coming out and playing at the field meaning less money for the field. This also means they may not be able to afford to pay you guys anything extra. Owning and operating a field in todays world isnt the huge profit dream that everyone seems to think it is.

2. If a company knows your going to strike, and STILL fires 42 people: youre not going to change anything. CPX appears to be confident that you guys where NOT a necessity, and that you CAN BE replaced with minimal losses.

3. Things will change for the better eventually anyways. If a field isnt making customers happy, people will stop going there! The park will either lose enough money that it goes under, OR it will make the right changes and get fixed.

4.The Reason CPXs gets away with #3 is because it caters to the newbie recballer(like brasseagle does in general) these people either dont know any better, or if theyre like anyone I know that does recball, they are just wowed with the gimmick fields that cpx provides.IMHO this might be the smartest thing about that parks business plan. Parks in general make money off the recballers that go and play once or twice a year, not the tourny team coming and shooting $3 above cost cases of paint every weekend. Theyre simply catering to the people that are churning their profit

5. CPX might also take a hint from henry ford and raise their employee wages. Henry ford figured out that if he paid his workers 2x as much than the average that he would SAVE MONEY in the end because his workers would be: less likely to strike, work harder, and allow for an overall higher quality of worker (by experience, intelligence, or anything else that would inspire a person to ask for a higher starting wage.)

[Star_Base_CGI]

Yes I undestand what its like to work on my feet 8 hours a day feeding people and working in a 50,000 sqaure foot grocery store earning mini wage to pay for college.

In the end its the employees who care about the job enough to want to make things work out in the long run. CEOs always get a golden parachute and a full pension no matter what. SO they could care less about antying other than stuffing their face pouches at the hamster dish.

Everyone thats saying the job is so easy.c Try standing on your feet and working 8 hours. You come home so tired you just want to sleep and your family does'nt understand why.

It all comes back to the person with a comfy job, the lease car and the company cell phone. If you had to work one day. Really work like the rest of us, youd lose everything. The working person has to plan his life and work around it. We dont have the luxory of sitting for 8 hours day.

Something like what %75 of new companies fail and when the economy is bad, %60 file for bankrupcey. Better to make friends with your employees than stab them in the back.


Read that CPX. Better go file for chapter 7.

You think your loosing money now. Heh heh. The only money youve lose is the money youve paid yourselves while the emplyees sweated.

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by fire1811
oh and shartley i am now putting you on a time limit!
you have exactly 28 days to finish up your e/xmag grips
im waiting...........

Oh no you don't! I was in line FIRST! My X-Mag NEEDS wraps!

[deathstalker]

Originally posted by shartley

Sam, your comments about your grips are quite appropriate, only because you show an understanding about priorities. What is the best way of spending your time? Making the grips and condoms for the big order. Many of the people in this thread don't understand BE's first and foremost priority is to generate REVENUE. It doesn't matter how it's done, it doesn't matter who gets hurt in the process, all that matters is the stockholders are happy.

One of my customers called me last week asking why they received a $9.00 invoice. Do you think I care? I'm the only rep in my region who has been able to sell anything this quarter and do you think I'm going to spend 45 minutes of my day worrying about why a customer owes nine freakin' dollars? I'm spending my time trying to sell training packages that cost tens of thousands of dollars. I am NOT going to waste a minute worrying about it.

The vast majority of paintball companies don't have to worry about their earnings per share; BE does and the person running the company is in danger of losing his job if he is not making decisions that will be helping that number. This is how difficult decisions are made in business and you can be sure that BE does not care about "striking" refs. Just as easily as the refs at CPX can be replaced, the Board can replace the CEO of BE.

And why did Henry Ford REALLY pay his employees more? So they'd be able to afford one of HIS cars. Genius!

[spantol]

Definitely--the lesson here is that no matter how much crap your employer gives you, bend over and take it. You can't win, so don't try.

Originally posted by shartley

[demonguy8]

re: HENRY FORD

While giving enough money to hise workers and thus enabling them to afford his cars is ONE possible reason for doing such a thing it was NOT the important one..

When he raised the wage he got WAY more than enough potential workers to fill a limited number of slots.. Therefore he was able to pick the BEST workers out of that sample. With so many other potential workers, you could also be replaced for slacking off VERY EASILY. Everyone who was hired had a GREAT paying job and thus would want to keep it. Ford found that turnover rate fell, absenteeism Fell, and worker PRODUCTIVITY ROSE. In the end HIS PRODUCTION COSTS where LOWER in total WITH THE HIGHER WAGE than they where with the lower wage. The workers being able to buy the cars is just an added bonus and counted AFTER the production costs / production output where considered.

[fire1811]

excuses excuses!!
25 days now

[shartley]

Originally posted by spantol
Definitely--the lesson here is that no matter how much crap your employer gives you, bend over and take it. You can't win, so don't try.