Should I drop paintball for a car?

[Rmarks]

Originally posted by ~WarpedRT#2~
No, it's true. Download the video on kazaa of the two AE86s racing the Skyline (called "Skyline vs. 2 corollas). They toy with it the whole time, and then they pass it in the last lap like it's nothing. And get some Option drifing videos as well. Horse power is worthless in a course full of turns. You never use the power, and if you try to push it too hard, you just spin out. Drifting is very difficult, and an overpowered car is worthless. Also, I don't care what it looks, like, actually the corolla has grown on me, and I love the way it looks.

Edit: and it's a GT-R they race as well.

ok, and against the FD? I've seen them drifting along side the Silvias and all the other crap out there. put the FD against the Corolla on a road course(stock for stock) and I'll put money on the RX7 EVERYTIME(as long as it's running properly).

Edit: I don't think you have a grasp of how much money it would take for a AE86 to "toy with" an R34 Skyline.

[~WarpedRT#2~]

Well, if an 86 can beat a skyline that grip driving, I think it can beat an RX-7 thats drift driving. ANd if the FD is so much better, then why dont you see more drift videos of them, instead of the Corolla? And why didn't Keiichi Tsuchiya use an RX-7?

Edit: It would sure cost a whole lot less that a Skyline would, but then again, thats not what I'm out to do anyway. You must think I'm out to go competition racing or something. Also, I'm talking about drift driving here, where all the corners are hairpins, and almost no straightaways. Like I said, over-powered cars are at a disadvantage. After being exposed to so much drift driving, I've lost almost all respect for drag racing, and super powered cars.

[FooTemps]

Ugh, warpedrt...

Let me guess, you watched Initial D right? It is possible for people to beat skylines and FDs. But, you know what? You can't. Not without breaking strut arms, bending rims, and damaging your chasis several times. Just because you have an 86 doesn't mean that you're a god at drifting. I've seen my share of morons try to drift and damage their cars. I've heard some nasty stories too. If you get the 86, learn how to grip at a sanctioned track before you try any of the drifting stuff... Even after you go through a car in spare parts you won't be the drift king like Keiichi Tsukiya(spelling? or is that even the right guy?) is.

Also, in the 2 86 vs skyline... Did you notice they weren't drifting? Yeah, they weren't drifting. THEY WEREN'T DRIFTING. And, they were trying too, not their best but they were still trying.

Really, get your head out of the clouds. You're way out of your league if you want to race with an unmodded 86. I mean, the only competitive people are the ones that either drop in a 4agze, or a 4ag-20v.

Edit: Also, have you heard about the 100,000 dollar trueno? That is probably the best one in Japan at the moment. TRD group A tourning engine, stiffened chasis, completely redone suspention, etc.

[Rmarks]

Originally posted by ~WarpedRT#2~
Well, if an 86 can beat a skyline that grip driving, I think it can beat an RX-7 thats drift driving. ANd if the FD is so much better, then why dont you see more drift videos of them, instead of the Corolla? And why didn't Keiichi Tsuchiya use an RX-7?

Maybe he drove it because he was a poor bum who couldn't afford a nicer car? For that matter, I don't car what the "drift king" drives or what he doesn't drive. At the end of the day I'd rather be driving that R34 or FD. I'm giving you the hard facts. Stock vs stock, The Corolla WOULD lose against an FD in a road course or autocross event.

Edit: It would sure cost a whole lot less that a Skyline would, but then again, thats not what I'm out to do anyway. You must think I'm out to go competition racing or something.

Yeah, I think you are out to go competition racing because you keep comparing that AE86 to two higher end models.

[FooTemps]

BTW: Keiichi has used plenty of rx7s in his career fyi

[~WarpedRT#2~]

Well, Footemps, get your head out of your @$$, and pay attention to what I'm saying, I never said I wanted to drive in any sort of competition, did I? Just for fun. And if they werent trying to drift, then the Corollas won anyway, right? Proves my point even better. Also, I was exposed to drifting long before I saw Initial D,(good series) so I'm not "all about it" simply because of it.

No, I'm comparing them simply because they have been compared before, and guess who won? All I wanted to know was, do you think It's a good investment to get into, and drop paintball for a while? Thats it.

also, FooTemps: Really, get your head out of the clouds. You're way out of your league if you want to race with an unmodded 86. I mean, the only competitive people are the ones that either drop in a 4agze, or a 4ag-20v.

Didn't I say I was going to get aftermarket parts? Maybe you should read some of the other posts before replying so hastily.

[FooTemps]

I don't buy it... These days, no one who wants an 86 wants to use it for the pure intention of everyday driver. You say you won't do it but most everyone does one time or another. I've seen plenty for 86's lose too.

Also, I'm a trueno enthusiust and I'm planning on getting one to screw around with sometime in the my life so don't take it as I'm hating on the car or anything. And about the driving for fun, is that at the track or autocross? or are you talkin about on the street with your buddies?

[~WarpedRT#2~]

I'm talking mountain roads. I live on a mountain that has some very steep windy turns. Thats what I want to drive on, but mostly my friends, yeah some bets here and there, but nothing serious. And of course I want all the mods I can get, hence the dropping paintball. I just wont have enough money for both. Plus I'm working on getting a turbo in my neon. two cars is alot of money, so I have to drop a few things.

Yeah, you've seen them lose before, but it comes down to driver skill. If you have some ya-hoo behind the wheel as compared to a very skilled driver, who do you think is going to win? I learned about the 86 through my friends, and I liked it alot, to my surprise, I found out there was an animated series about it, and that was cool, but I'm not one of those stupid little kids who goes out and buys one simply because the cartoon told me to, and then lose races, and makes them look bad.

Also, It's still one of the best cars to use even though it's over 17 years old. Thats something thats hard to ignore.

[Xen]

looks like someone played a little too much gran turismo 3

if you got that car i can see it ending up looking something like this....

[Rancid Milk]

[~WarpedRT#2~]

Once again, two people who don't understand the capabilities of the car. And if I was going to get a bike, I'd get the best out there, a Harley. Softail Night Train, Fat Boy, or a V-Rod.

[Skeletar]

I personally love that anti-rice photo.

[Cyberious]

Call Me Tonight!!!!!!!I'm leaving for Denmark on Thursday so don't wait. Better yet I'll call you tonight we really need to talk.

[Bob01RT]

By a geo metro and drop a v8 in it. You'll be set and a lot cheaper too..

Seriously you won't be drifting in the thing even on the road, you'll pour way to much money and realise you don't want to damage it. Also I haven't seen the video but I bet more skylines have beaten 86's then 86's beaten skylines.

I know quite a bit about cars, I've got a 01 Stratus R/T with haltech 13:1 compression, kaaz lsd, and a 6pack throttle body. I love modding out my car, and it's possible to do both, however you won't be able to mod out the car like you want and still have a daily driver. What will you do when it's in the garage doing a motor swap? (And if you dead set on modding it you will eventually take a big step that will put it off the road for a while.) The answer is get a beater, then find one of these cars.

I agree with Mossman buy a cheaper gun, because it doesn't sound like your ready to set aside the time and effort to drop that kind of money on paintball.

[Halliday]

What the heck? Racing cars? Where, on the street? Watch a little too much "Fast & Furious?" Are you plannig on racing this car for money?

Sure, get a car buy, why "trick" it out? Drive it to to a job and make money.

There is a fellow Ref at the field with that same mentality. He tries to play paintball and he tries to race some Eagle Talon. In reality he does neither.

Kids today