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  • dre1919
    www.andrewsloan.com
    • May 2002
    • 1548

    #31
    Originally posted by Laxpunk2006
    ...Dre, what's wrong with having an Angel when you're 14. I worked up to 12 hour days last summer when I was 14, and bought mine. Not all kids are spoiled, some really do work for these luxuries.
    Zipping up flame retardant suit...

    Ok, well, I'll tell you since you asked. Personally, I don't feel any 14 year old kid should have a $1,000+ marker. I know everyone I grew up with including myself never had anything that resembled a grand in value until we got cars (I grew up in a middle class neighborhood, working a job too). It's not that I think people in this age group can't take care of something that valuable, but do they know enough to appreciate it's value?

    Basically what it comes down to for me is this: I've been playing for ten years now (started as a high school junior). In that time I've come from Splatmaster Rapide pistols, to several "middle of the road" guns, to E-Mag's. I think of it as kind of a gap in the maturation of a player when they start at the top with the best marker out there and don't have to spend years moving through the ranks of other guns. Almost every player I know worked up from a cheap gun, to an intermediate, and then to a high end gun based on what they could afford at the time. Skipping those steps gives you less of an opprotunity to accurately appreciate what you have IMHO.

    However, there are always exceptions to the rule and I hope you are definitely one of them. If you worked hard for a long time to buy yours, I certainly respect you at that age then. But I think you know the types of kids I'm really talking about here and how truly annoying and resentful it is to see them in full swing.
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    • Psycho Chicken
      Registered User
      • Feb 2001
      • 331

      #32
      Tom, could you please resolve this issue. Let us know what's goin on with them. I would like to know facts, not just speculation.
      This chicken's got a brand new bag.

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      • FalconGuy016
        Divine Right, Pevs @ AG
        • Aug 2002
        • 6127

        #33
        Originally posted by dre1919

        However, there are always exceptions to the rule and I hope you are definitely one of them.
        Im glad you said that, or I would have yelled at you :) IMO, If you work that much for an angel, you earned it. Sometimes I wished I had just saved my money and skipped my first gun and just bought the mag I have now (or even save for more!). I am too annoyed by the 90% of the other young kids who's parent bought them angels cause paintball was the "cool thing" of the time. Although I havent played with many of these types of people, I would guess that they suck real bad and get out once they find out it takes actual skill :)
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        • AGD
          The man from AGD

          • Oct 2000
          • 5916

          #34
          The current batch went out for ano this week.

          People, please don't complain, if you don't want to wait just buy another gun. The Xmags are always going to have a wait now and forever.

          AGD
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          • battlegroup
            OEF Veteran
            • Oct 2000
            • 332

            #35
            TOM, Where is anno is the timeline of building the guns? Any estimate, however innaccurate, on when they will ship?
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            • AGD
              The man from AGD

              • Oct 2000
              • 5916

              #36
              They will probably be back from ano in about a week to a week and a half. Then it take as a week to build them and they go out the begining of the next week. When they get back from ano we will be posting pics of them being built.

              AGD
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              • chw32587
                Registered User
                • Apr 2002
                • 86

                #37
                what!

                People, please don't complain, if you don't want to wait just buy another gun. The Xmags are always going to have a wait now and forever.

                AGD

                what!!? Dude r u an Idiot I dont see how u can say sumthin like that..mainly about jus buy another gun!? i mean come on man.. and if i was wanting and x mag i woulda bought sumthin elts a long time ago i wouldnt wait this long..but how can u tell people or your customers to buy another gun thats just dumb man.... and I would also like to add that 1 of my friends played with my timmy yesterday and hes been wanting an xmag for quite some time now and has been on the list.. but he loved the timmy and desides waiting that long wasnt worth it.. your just losing buisness and u sayin that crap doesnt help out at all man!

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                • Psycho Chicken
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 331

                  #38
                  Thanks for the info Tom.

                  I wasn't complaining, I just hadn't heard anything for awhile. This is just another reason this company rocks, You get feedback for the man in charge direct.

                  Whoohooo, my baby should be to me soon. Can't wait to see the pictures.
                  This chicken's got a brand new bag.

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                  • FalconGuy016
                    Divine Right, Pevs @ AG
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 6127

                    #39
                    Although a few are complaining, some people are telling some great points here Tom, if you hadn't you should read all the posts in this thread
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                    • gtrsi
                      Automag?
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 5786

                      #40
                      Re: what!

                      Originally posted by chw32587

                      what!!? Dude r u an Idiot I dont see how u can say sumthin like that..mainly about jus buy another gun!? i mean come on man.. and if i was wanting and x mag i woulda bought sumthin elts a long time ago i wouldnt wait this long..but how can u tell people or your customers to buy another gun thats just dumb man.... and I would also like to add that 1 of my friends played with my timmy yesterday and hes been wanting an xmag for quite some time now and has been on the list.. but he loved the timmy and desides waiting that long wasnt worth it.. your just losing buisness and u sayin that crap doesnt help out at all man!
                      Come on man,
                      Tom is a very respected member of this board, no wait the owner. So please add a little respect and spell check your post.

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                      • chw32587
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 86

                        #41
                        i think its funny how you all suck up to this guy so bad(Tom)...i mean yall needa tell him what you really think... i mean dont get me wrong im sure he is a great guy.. but every time yall say sumthin he'll get on and tell u a lil sumthin and yall r just like oo yeah thanks soo much man!! and jus stuff like that.. i mean b straight up with him..but what he said about the guns being anoed that dont help us know anything about the reasons why this batch is taking so long and that kinda stuff..

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                        • Kevmaster
                          Owners Group Div: Director
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 5475

                          #42
                          from a business sense, its not the greatest plan to keep the supply SO low when the demand is SO high...but i respect it as a customer. i know that i can always own my XMag and go to a field and not see 3-4 others there at the field...which i cant say about my Angel....

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                          • ben_JD

                            #43
                            Part of me agrees with Kev. I have and X-Mag and like that very few others do. But I am trying to get one for a friend of mine for his upcoming birthday and re-living the waitlist anxiety is not fun.

                            I do wish that AGD could or would domesticate the production, but understand that there are issues outside of my knowledge that disallow that.

                            Oh well. Go, Spurs!

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                            • TequilaMockingbird
                              Creating Welts Since 1990
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 37

                              #44
                              I think most of us that were throwing out the negative waves were not so much complaining as venting some frustration. I will readily admit that Tom has had more impact on paintball than I ever will, and he really does a lot in keeping AO informed (more than many CEOs would.) However, I've gotta say that it's kinda shocking to hear someone essentially say "Don't whine, it's available when it's available, and if you don't like it go buy from our competition." It just doesn't sound right. AGD is a rare entity, it has a fiercely loyal customer base that truly wants to see it dominate in the industry. Surely Tom has known for a while that there's a big problem in getting an X-Mag in the hands of everyone that wants one, and I'm sure he shares in our frustration. (I know I'd quickly get sick of dealing with setbacks, missed deadlines, and tons of people complaining at me.) That in mind, there's still something here that doesn't seem to make sense. Demand is big and the selling price is in line with comparable guns, so it's not like X-Mags should be a manufacturing money pit; they should be very profitable. Yeah there's a guilty pleasure in "Haha, I've got something you can't get", but I think many of us would rather run into a few every time we go out to the field and see the X-Mag be top dog. Mag owners have taken a lot of flack from other gun owners the last few years, it just plain sucks to have AGD perceived as a two-bit operation that can't get its product out.

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                              • Tron
                                Registered User
                                • May 2002
                                • 654

                                #45
                                Originally posted by AGD
                                The current batch went out for ano this week.

                                People, please don't complain, if you don't want to wait just buy another gun. The Xmags are always going to have a wait now and forever.

                                AGD
                                Sadly I did loving my Dragon timmy. Still have my RT Pro with it's stained body though...

                                -Tron

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