why does everybody get so upset over..

[GatoLoco]

Originally posted by Blazingace
I play back for my 5-man team. I use and Lvl 10 E-mag with a 68/45 PMI. At a recent tourney we could only get between 2800 and 3500 PSI fills. I would have to fill every game but I would shoot a hopper and 4 pods with it. I didn't have too much of an effiency problem then. I am getting a 88/45 tank to expand my ability for possible 7-man games.

Ive seen this man's paint spraying skills before, don't get in his way lol

[_Spork_1]

Originally posted by JAM
Well, i get so pissed off because my field doesn't have the all day air thing... I mean, it really adds up when you need to pay for a fill every 2 games. Any fellow Pev's @ A.G. peeps out there agree? They make tons of money as is, give players the option of $10 all day air or something like it.

-j

yea! I had a 30 minutes converstation with the fill station guy on how they should have all day air last time i was at Pevs, i kept telling him how 5 bucks a fill is crazy and it would be so nicer to have all day air

they really kill you on air and admin compared to some other fields

last time i went i think i spent 15 i think, they should do all day air, it's not like tons of peopel are going to get their tank fielld 3+ times

some people only re-fill it once so they would make money off of all day air from that person

!!!!!

[Thing]

What makes the situation REALLY gay is that the field owners pay for the entire tank of air with the first tank they fill. I know because most of the fields I play charge a 1.50 per 1000 pounds. I got smart and bought 5 beat up scuba tanks from a dive shop and got one of the fill stations. They fill to around 4000 psi. We load up all five in my truck and fill our 4500 angel air tanks at the field. With a five man team shooting over 20 cases on a Saturday we go through about 3 scuba tanks. Sure we are not getting 4500 fills, but guess what? It cost the whole team 8 bucks to run air all day. 2.50 per scuba at the dive shop...plus tax. It only cost 3.50 to fill the large air tanks....I know the fields have to make money, but......damn. Like paintball isn't expensive enough as it is. Cut a brother some slack and give all day fills.
'nuff said.

[jwren00]

get a scuba tank! one of the fields i play at charges huge amaounts per fill, so i bought a scuba and fill my own now.

I can air up at home now whenever i want too, comes in really handy when you get bored and want to adjust the trigger or goof around...

[Pand0ra]

Originally posted by Mossman
Also when back buys in major tourneys want to be hosing 8, 9, or 10 pods a game, they can't do that with an emag unless they want to run a gigantic tank. Just the fact that the emag gets maybe 60% as many shots on a fill as some of the extremely efficient guns is enough to surely keep it out of the hands of some tourney players, guaranteeing even less tourney exposure for AGD.

mmmm Xmag

I can shoot up to 9 pods + loader with my Emag C&C, and this is with a 68Ci/4500psi air system. It's just a question of settings.
On mine, the air system is the most efficient near 625psi. If I use an input pressure even slightly different (like 700psi), I start loosing efficiency.

@++

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by einhander619
possibly. That ram oprated bolt would be an interesting project. However, that would take away the huge benefit of simplicity the mag has by adding an LPR, and then the LX system would have to be either redesigned or thrown out. I believe punisher has done something like this, but ut was done for speed, not shots per fill.

Would you really need a LPR? Run the ram at high pressure. You want the bolt to return as fast as possible anyways.

[xadamx]

o0o well you all have valid enough points about caring about air efficiency. i guess im just spoiled by my field having its own air compressor and 3 scuba tanks sitting there right in the staging area and free all day air.