AGD US doesnt own the rights to the X-mag body...its kinda hard to make something that takes this much time to build!
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Originally posted by the123
The problem is they only have 1 elf working on them over in Europe.
The only way you will see mass produced CNC XMag's is if Tom Buy's production right's from Sosta, and bring's the machining in country!! Hey with our economy the way it is right now, I can Name you 20 machine shop's that would Kill for a contract to produce 1000 bodie's a week, and they'd Deliver!!
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There is a reason why AGD is a small business still, when it comes to the business side of the game they are dumb. Simple as that.I like potatoesComment
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And AutoMag's Don't Win Tournament's!Originally posted by Ityl
There is a reason why AGD is a small business still, when it comes to the business side of the game they are dumb. Simple as that.
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What the hell does winning a tournament have to do with sales. for the few won with mags there are dozens won with other guns.
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And without agd, this business wouldn't be what it is today.Originally posted by Ityl
There is a reason why AGD is a small business still, when it comes to the business side of the game they are dumb. Simple as that.http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...light=feedback
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The more that I read the more i think this is the case. This is Tom's little pet project, kinda like his baby.Originally posted by Kevmaster
exactly....AGD doesnt want to have hundreds of thousands of them like there are impys...
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That elf is taking too many "afternoon tea breaks"...Originally posted by the123
...The problem is they only have 1 elf working on them over in Europe...Comment
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Re: Why is it taking so long for AGD to make xmags
It takes time...sorry those are the facts.... deal with it or hold your breath till you get your way and see one in an online store like the timmy's and angels that the rest of the tourney scene is shooting...Originally posted by Ironlance7
Why is it taking so long for AGD to get xmags out to its customers. These markers have the potiential to put AGD back at the top of the tournement totem pole, but first they need to be readily available. If production can get up to speed then the mag will once again rule the field, so when will there no longer be waiting lists. When will I be able to go to xpaintball.com, pbgear.com, ect., and order one.RATPULSE SHOOTER
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That's a bit unfair on AGDE - everytime I've gone over to see Sosta he's had the Mill working full speed, weekends, late evenings - you name it.Originally posted by Jack & Coke
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i think he sums it up quite welloriginally posted by adam shannon
the big picture is much diffrent...at least from my experiences. i run a small business, i leak product samles and info...when i do the net is abuzz with people clamoring to buy one. but when it actually comes to buying only 1/10th of one percent of people that come and look buy anything. buzz iz buzz...buying is another story. if i made my decisions based on what people say and dont do i would be on the unemployment line.
that said AO is a little diffrent, people here do buy...and want it right now. tom shoots himself in the foot a bit by leaking new stuff waaay before its ready...but who can blame him. i would be really proud and eager to show off new cool stuff also.
AO is a great place for mag hags to get new info...and we know before the everyday joe mag about new stuff...and we assuredly buy most of it at first till the general public knows about it.
AGD could hire more staff and do huge production runs. but think about one thing...all this demand on AO doesnt translate to the general PB world. just because the demand is so big at AO...once we all have the new stuff we want the demand will drop back to normal for everybody else. sure the x-mag could make agd a household name...but if you were tom would you bet your business on it?
agd could hire 4 times the staff and lease bigger facilities...but what happens when ao is sated and there is no continual need for huge production...lay off all those folks you hired? go back to smaller offices? or go chapter 11? if you have ever run a business you know how sick it makes you feel to lay off people you considered family...and what about the commitment you made to them to give them a job to feed their families...playing with people like that isnt nice.
give it 6 months to a year...agd will be up to speed on production with the staff and facilities they have now, tom will have sold all the units he could make to satisfy the backorders, and stock levels will be back up. nobody had to be hired and fired, tom didnt risk his business on a gamble, and anybody will be able to pick up the phone and order an x-mag out of on hand stock."The Few Who Do Are The Envy Of The Many Who Only Stand And Watch"
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dude... I was just poking fun at Brit culture...Originally posted by Mr Pink
That's a bit unfair on AGDE - everytime I've gone over to see Sosta he's had the Mill working full speed, weekends, late evenings - you name it.
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Now, I'm speaking from a hypothetical standpoint.
IF AGD were to get the production running at a reasonable speed, why don't I ever see any ads in magazines about AGD's products? I know that the Xmag is significantly faster than the Speed(actual bps, not the board), but I don't ever expect to see this advertised. It makes good business sense to advertise a product that performs because this industry is driven by a whole bunch of little kids with daddy's money who will happily spend more than $1500 on an angel that they heard was really fast. The fact is that the Xmag is the best gun on the market and should be advertised and produced according to that standard.
p.s. One more thing, as soon as I can take out another student loan, I will also be on the list for the Xmag!Comment
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Yes, because AGD is Airgun Designs, the business itself.Originally posted by TheBigRaguPB4L
And without agd, this business wouldn't be what it is today.
I never said anything about making bad products, I think quite the opposite. But I laugh every time I log on and there are 5 new posts about people waiting for X-mags.I like potatoesComment
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i think he ment buisness as in paintball
agd has made some very big break thoughs in paintball
semiautos
compressed air
just to name a few"The Few Who Do Are The Envy Of The Many Who Only Stand And Watch"
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