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  • JAM
    Back from the Dead
    • Jan 2003
    • 953

    #1

    2004 EMag???

    OK, I've been reading Tom's XMag reply thread and i got to thinking what I would want in a marker and was wondering if anyone else feels the same?

    It seems a lot of the XMag mess comes from impatient people, desire for a sexy mag, and troubles with AGDE's production. So, why not get this thing back inhouse? I say, leave the XMag in the state of tom's "High-end, limited production, collector's mag" and revamp the EMAG.

    Check this- make a new milled slug that matches with a new milled rail for the EMag. the ULE body is nice, but it was meant to save weight, not be sexy. Standardize colors- maybe Black, Blue, Silver and 2 fades. Maybe always have the frame/battery black to streamline? People can order custom colors, but they will have to wait. This way, we get a really reliable, sexy marker with the BEST parts of the XMag design- light weight, removable breach, cocker barrels. The ACE is nice and all, but a bit superfluous. So, it's basically a restyled/lightened EMag. All the production can be done in the US and price it for a street price of around $1000.

    I think it would be cool.

    thoughts?

    -j
    sigs are overrated.
  • JAM
    Back from the Dead
    • Jan 2003
    • 953

    #2
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    sigs are overrated.

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    • Vendetta
      Nothing witty to say.
      • Sep 2002
      • 702

      #3
      This is exactly what I want. ACE and Level X is like wearing a belt and suspenders

      They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
      Benjamin Franklin

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      • shartley
        paintball player
        • Mar 2001
        • 9169

        #4

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        • Vendetta
          Nothing witty to say.
          • Sep 2002
          • 702

          #5
          I'm sure you would save lots of time and money not having to deal with the ACE electronics.

          They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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          • Cryer
            Paintball is over.
            • Nov 2002
            • 4105

            #6
            I love it! I'd get one in a heart-beat. It may take a while to transition between the 2 designs, tho. Just like all the talk about ULE's becoming stock components after the SS bodies sell out. I would definatley get one when they became available.

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            • shartley
              paintball player
              • Mar 2001
              • 9169

              #7
              Originally posted by Vendetta


              I'm sure you would save lots of time and money not having to deal with the ACE electronics.

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              • Kevmaster
                Owners Group Div: Director
                • Oct 2001
                • 5475

                #8
                but the problem with producing xmags has nothing to do with the fact they have an ACE and ACE board...

                sam, i agree. i think this would be just as hard to produce as the x-mag is.

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                • JAM
                  Back from the Dead
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 953

                  #9
                  Shartley, the main prob with the XMags is supply, and if they cold be built here, that would save some time/money and the pic isn't what I would do for a body, it should and can be simplified, but it's for the concept.

                  -j
                  sigs are overrated.

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                  • shartley
                    paintball player
                    • Mar 2001
                    • 9169

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JAM
                    Shartley, the main prob with the XMags is supply, and if they cold be built here, that would save some time/money and the pic isn't what I would do for a body, it should and can be simplified, but it's for the concept.

                    -j

                    www.ShartleyCustoms.com
                    Custom Paintball Products and Accessories
                    CLICK HERE to Check out our PDU SERIES GEAR!


                    its more like a paper cut that has primadonna's yelling murder... - Glickman

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                    • sniper1rfa
                      (Not a Wang Force member.)
                      • Aug 2001
                      • 1107

                      #11
                      honestly, i think a fully ULE E-Mag would be awesome. not too expensive or time consuming to make, and very nice looking.
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                      • langrage
                        I am a Mayan Prince
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 400

                        #12
                        I feel JAM's point is valid. IF you are already using the standard pieces of the emag (body rail, gripframe, battery) than all you would really need to do is mill the the slug. This should not be too hard to do since we have already seen some of the slug designs. This would also allow emag owners to just buy a slug body to up grade. It seems alot like how different car models have different versions of the same car and change the from being DE to SE or LE. It would be like a cheaper version xmag, with out the leather and nice radio
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                        • JAM
                          Back from the Dead
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 953

                          #13
                          AGDE owns the Extreem milling, fine, so change it...

                          I'm not trying to redo the XMag, I'm thinking about updating the EMag.

                          -j

                          :
                          sigs are overrated.

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                          • JAM
                            Back from the Dead
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 953

                            #14
                            open:
                            sigs are overrated.

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                            • dre1919
                              www.andrewsloan.com
                              • May 2002
                              • 1548

                              #15
                              I agree with you J, I think this is definitely the way to go. I was unhappy with the X-Mag production because I was thinking it was the "new" AGD flagship marker, when in reality it's a special version of the EMag. I think AGD should redesign the EMag from the ground up personally, I mean completely different body and frame and just go with something technologically superior and stylish, yet still being affordable to produce en masse.

                              One thing bothered me when I showed the EMag to a friend of mine a long time ago that's not an AGD onwer or supporter. When he first saw it, he said "It looks like an RT with a battery pack". I think that's a very valid point...why doesn't AGD push the envelope and just come out with something completely new? I mean, the power tube assembly can still be the straight tube through the body, but why not do something completely different body wise to wrap around it? Agressive (but stateside and affordable) milling, varied anno colors, etc. That way, not only do we the consumer get a high end, AGD quality marker that's light, carved and anno'd...but it also shows some growth on the company's part.

                              It says "Hey, were not afraid to try something completely new and leave the past behind. Welcome to the future, welcome to the new AGD" or something like that. At least it would get them out of the backorder, have to wait on AGDE problem they have now.
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