Hmm Strange realization about tourny guns

[Zumina]

Oh, and the Modular body was a step in the right direction for AGD. The twist lock barrel concept was cool for a time, but with every shot the barrel actuall vibrates in the breach area. I think this atributes to the "sub par" accuracy of the mag. Screw in barrels are the way to go. Not to mention the MOD body makes the E-mag look like a regular gun as opposed to a foolish looking tube with a grip frame.

[magman007]

sun warrior actulay you are wrong, whilst speaking with tom kaye at the iao he said that most people think that the vibration causes inaccuracy which is actually wrong! the barrel vibrates after the ball has left the barrel, so your vibration therory is wrong

edit- spelling

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you ever notice how elves do everyting???

[This message has been edited by magman007 (edited 08-28-2001).]

[magmanpaintball]

When I had my cocker i did not like it because it never worked and i did not have the brains to fix it. Now with my mag i easily know the problem it it breaks but it never does. My choice for tournament gun would be a mag cause i think they are the most reliable high end semi out there.

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68 automag classic
chrome p/f body
14inch pmi ceramik barrel
68 4500 psi nitro duck tank

[Zumina]

Magmann, I'm interested in what Tom said. I've always thought the barrel vibrates once the bolt moves and is air applied, why would it vibrate only after the ball has left?.....I feel dumb for not knowing the trust, allow me to adress Mr. Kaye on behalf of us and our fellow AOers. There's nothing better than clearing up some confusion.

[magman007]

ask him in the main forum, i may have miss underdtood but i believe i am correct. that is what he said. you may want to ask tho to make sure

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you ever notice how elves do everyting???

[daveymag]

Hey, Manny, it doesn't look like anyone on this thread mentioned it, but congrats on the victory in AC! I heard that you guys where rippin it up.

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I am trying to see things from your point of view, but I just can't get my head that far up my butt.

Getting bunkered is like SEX.....
In prison!!

[apache]

This is for Manny or any other front guy... I play front too in our team but I have one serious problem with my Mag. I can't shoot well on the run. Either I don't hit anything or I chop balls because of accidental short stroking. With my friend's Angel I can eliminate guys while running.

Question: Do you shoot while running (and achieve something too) or do I just need more practice?

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[AGD]

Thanks for the info Manny!! We are all really glad you are here to give your opinion in such a clear manner. Sorry we didn't get a chance to talk more at the tourney, I'll try and call you this week.

AGD

[RiceRocket]

Thanks daveymag. I've been waiting for this one for a long time. Hopefully, it will mark the return of our dominance.

Apache, if you like using your Mag, then I'd suggest practicing a little more. You can make a conscious effort not to short stroke. I, personally, don't have that problem when shooting on the run if the particular game requires me to do so. I don't want to criticize your form without seeing you play. I rely on my speed to get to my bunker and set up while my opponent is still running. But if I need to shoot on the run, I make sure I shoulder and hold my gun in the same position as if I were stationary. However, if you find it easier doing it with an Angel, go for it. You seem to have more confidence just from reading your post. Everyone has their own preferences.

[Hasty8]

Originally posted by constant airhead:
Angel have been around for 5 years and have a huge following. because of this any new player looking to get into the sport are far more likely to see an angel at there local field that an emag. They also see far more angels in the magazines and in the hands of a pro than anything else. When was the last time you opened a magazine and didn't see an angel? Now think emag. No real comparision is there

Have to disagree with you here. I have been playing since Summer of 1999. I've played against an Angel once. Last week at High Velocity. I own an Emag. As well as two Tippmann 98's. I have also seen way more 98's on the field in the past....three months or so.

Why did I choose the Emag? Let's see. Angel? Way to much money. Cocker? At a big game a guy kept complaining that his hoses were bursting due to the difference in ground elevation. Apparently his cocker was set for a lower elevation then we were at or something like that. Way to confusing for someone of my limited intellect. The Emag? The fabled AGD Customer Service and the fact that if the battery dies you can still use it.

On a funny side note, I was cleaning my Emag last weekend {read: looking for any excuse to hold it} and of course my 3 year old was there. He does have his own goggles that I made to fit his head. A SKUL, just like his dads with a shortened strap. Anyways, he wanted to fire it as he always does and I was messing around in mechanical mode, loving the awesome trigger kickback. I lock it downn into the shooting shoe and let Dusty take a few shots. After about three pulls he got the perfect amount of pressure on the trigger and the thing went full auto. Apparently, just as the trigger was being pushed back he would push it forward. It brought a tear to my eye.

Anyway. I truly feel that the Mag family of markers are the way to go for high end markers just as I feel that for under 300 you can't get anyting better than a Tippmann 98. Those things are work horses.

[DarkRipper]

Originally posted by magman007:
I mean that cockers ang angels are slow cycling compared to an e-mag, rt pro, em1, and a sandridge f5(yes i realize it is a cocker

This is classic. An ANGEL is SLOW?

ROFL
ROFLMAO

Where do you guys get this stuff?

Hey, everyone!! An angel is slower than an EM-1!!!

Come on man. Think before you post.



DR


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Owned a PF mag in 96.
=)

[mykroft]

An Angel is slower than an EM-1, technically. As per Manike, the angel tops out at 18bps on an LED, which is a wee bit faster than the LCD (larger bolt=slower cycle rate, slightly lower that is) and the EM-1 is 19bps. not that it matters, it's definitly easier to get an Angel up to speed (Especially those wonderful Cobra Angels with the 1x trigger). 1 bps doesn't really matter, they're both fast guns.



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CF11023, Classic Feed, 16" CP .689, 14" JnJ Stainless, Ring trigger, WGP Reg, Diamond Labs Ti Reg Adjuster.

VV00614(Valve)/VV00423(reg), Black Teflon HR Powerfeed, 16" SP AA,14" JnJ Ceramic, AGD Intelliframe Blade, Benchy Crossfire cradle/on-off, black foregrip, Macroline.
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[PsychoMag]

Originally posted by DarkRipper:

This is classic. An ANGEL is SLOW?

ROFL
ROFLMAO

Where do you guys get this stuff?

Hey, everyone!! An angel is slower than an EM-1!!!

Come on man. Think before you post.



DR

An Angel IS slower than an EM1...just because its an Angel doesnt mean its perfect in every way. Oddly enough, the EM1 can cycle at 19bps without any shootdown with a warp...What can an angel do...13 i think??

The sandridge i hear is serious garbage. Im not trashing the gun...but it needs alot of improvements especially withthe rumors of a real electro from WGP



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