Angel Speed vs. E/X-Mag??

[Cyberious]

Originally posted by ~WarpedRT#2~
Cyberious, when you come up, your bringing that right, I get to shoot it right? Right??

Hadn't planned on it since it is just a back up. There is nothing that can replace the X-Mag.

[Cyberious]

Originally posted by PzYcO


bastard.

I am not fish feces!

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by AzNGuNSmokE



Can it do that with no shootdown?

Shootdown is in the tank you are using my friend.

[Frank (the spank)]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-


Shootdown is in the tank you are using my friend.

Part of it, plus how fast the valve can recharge.

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by Frank (the spank)


Part of it, plus how fast the valve can recharge.

Ahh yes, I forget we are talking about mags.

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by Adam_Angel_Guy
ok the speed fires 30 bps max. thats what the board can do i think the x-mag will do high 20's

Uhm try CPS! Check out Jack & Cokes thread about CPS. His mag was at 34 CPS without shootdown. Regardless of what the boards can do, nothing I know of out there can fire faster then the R/T with a tank set at 1200 PSI!

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye


Uhm try CPS! Check out Jack & Cokes thread about CPS. His mag was at 34 CPS without shootdown. Regardless of what the boards can do, nothing I know of out there can fire faster then the R/T with a tank set at 1200 PSI!

Yes - I tested and PROVED the RT valve of the MAG can cycle 32+ CPS. The MAG is currently THE FASTEST CYCLING MARKER on the market today (with video and audio proof).

However...

No - I have not yet tested for shootdown. Maybe someday in the future, I will setup a test and document it.

:)

[cphilip]

Oh... it will do it without shoot down... By design the Angel will shoot down at those rates of fire. Not that it matters and I am certain some of you will protest. But it WILL not shoot balls without shoot down at those rediculous speeds. Not that it needs to but hey...you brought it up! Not me. Fire away!

[Jack & Coke]

cphilip,

I'm currious, is there research and proof (documentation such as video, test photos, test data, etc.) that the Angel WILL have shoot down at those speeds?

The reason I ask is that, although it is common knowledge (with common evidence) that the MAG can shoot balls 22+ per second, and cycle 32+ per second, I have yet to see PROOF of any Angel shooting or cycling faster than 20 per second.

If we havn't seen any evidence of an Angel shooting 20 balls per second, then how do you know it would have shoot down at 30 bps?

Are there calculations based on the pressures and volume of the Angel lpr and valve?

This is not a challenge, I'm just curious... :)


NOTE: Please don't get me wrong... I'm not saying the Angel can not shoot 20+ bps or cycle 30+ cps. I'm saying I have not yet seen any PROOF (real documention like a video clip, not marketing hype) that it can. If you disagree, please post a link to the test data... thanks!

[MagKoko]

Chanting

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!!

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[sniper1rfa]

essentially there is proof. Its the fact that at those speeds, the only real factor in shootdown is the reg.

When tom put an angel on the dyno, he showed that the stock angel reg sucked. :-)


because the input pressure will directly relate to fps, we can assume that there will be some shootdown in an angel at 30 bps. Even if the amount is small, its still there.

we can assume that the RT isnt shooting down, because the LX continues to cycle, and the LX is quite pressure sensitive.

[Ityl]

It shouldn't be about which gun can fire faster, but which gun can you fire faster. For me it's a tuned Emag trigger. I really like the space frame though too. When it comes to the top end markers, it's all about a person's trigger preference, imo.

[The Yellow Dart]

bastard.

I hear you czyco. An angel for the back up!?

[~WarpedRT#2~]

Why would he have an Angel as a primary gun when he has the X-Mag?? It's a real crime to let an X-Mag take the passenger seat.

Did you get it Cyberious??? YOu gotta send pics! I think another collection pic of all the guns you have is in order.

[Cyberious]

See here: http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=86281

I decided to start a new thread so the test wouldn't be buried way down in the posting.