Timmy or Cocker?

[Steelrat]

Look, you mentioned an emag, and asked the question in a post titled "Timmy or cocker." I'm guessing that most of the people reading the thread are probably Timmy or cocker fans.

Just try out all three for yourself. All three types have fans, for their own reasons. Listening to one guy say "Buy a timmy becasue of x, y, and z" doesn't really tell you why the gun would be good for you. This is an over-$1000 purchase, you owe it to yourself to try them out. Go meet people who own them, and give them a try.

I'm not a seasoned pro, but I like the mag. Its rare, its simple, and its over-engineered. And a better comparison may be the xmag.

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

yes you also have a good point. Since it's going to be like a month before i get $$$ i have plenty of time to test it out.

[ringmasta187]

just say no to the timmy. Unless u just wanna really fit in with the cool paintball crowd. Id get the eblade over a timmy. But id get a trix over both of them.
Timmys dont just feel cheap, they are cheap, they should retail for about 600. Every one of them are the exact same and the fact that they can charge an extra 400 for a diff. milled body is highway robbery. They dont even have a manifold, they are elctro pneumatic spyders with steel tubes pressed into there low grade aluminium bodies.
I cant however say that they dont preform well, they preform almost as good as pretty much any torney grade gun. Its just that they are highly over priced, and if u wanna get ripped off for looks and to have a gun that 30% or whatever the stupid figure is of pros that shoot em (the pros are just soooooo coooool) then more power to ya.
U will most likely get the timmy any way so what i say dosnt really matter.
As for the cocker, ive owned many and the really high end ones never have problems if u take good care of them, they come set perfectly from the factory. But eblades have been know to be problematic. (races r better)
But if i were u id get a trix, or excal (that way u get your moneys worth)

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

i'm not getting one because pro's use them and i'm not getting it to feel kool. I've seen the gun i've read reviews, looks sweet to me, many people say it shoots sweet. I plan on testing this out before i buy it. If it sucks as bad as you say it sucks then i will go for the e-blade cocker but since i do not know yet i cannot make a hard descision.

But currently i'm in favor of the timmy.

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

plus i am feeling a little ticked at the fact that you think people buy timmys just to be kool. You say that to anyone with a timmy and your sure to get some negative comments about yourself. right now i'm taking a little effort just to keep me from calling you a $#)(*@$&@#^*&!^#*)&*@$%#*^$(%*^)@%)*#@@ SON OF A @_)*(&@_(^#&^(&^&#$ PIECE OF @*(^#)^#)&*$^#*^#$#!

...sorry about the outburst lol

just think before you type. your opinion is sorta offensive to people who own timmys and are getting them.

[ringmasta187]

if its offensive then they can cry me a river. I dont think all people buy them for that reason, but i feel a lot of them do especially the 14-18 year old crowd.
As for personally testing both guns, i think its your best bet.
And i always think before i type if i didnt my post would look like this:
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[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

lol now first if you are trying to mimic me please do it correctly. here lemme teach you:

first. Press and hold "SHIFT" left or right will do.
second. while holding shift press random numbers located above the letters: Q W E R T Y U I O P
third. Occasionaly pause for english "SON OF A" "PIECE OF" like how i used in my post.
forth. finish off with an exclimation mark "!"

now i took your post as sort of an insult to me. If it wasnt meant to be an insult than sorry my apologies but i have been looking over this marker and the eclipse e-blade cocker for some time now.

I checked out the WAS board looked at the eclipse e-blade trigger in magazines and on the net.

I went through the forums and boblong.com, pbreview, and here about both markers.

As you can see i'm not buying this marker for show. I'm buying it for what it can do.

Plus i want to just buy a marker that looks good to the eye and feels good to the hand. And once i get a marker that perfectly suits me i will be happy for quite some time before i have to trouble myself about getting a new marker.

[JT2002]

omg, im not even going to bother starting another argument with ignorance. how bout i just say a cocker is just a cheaply upgraded pump gun? which is mostly true since cockers used to be pumps. cmon bro. so youre saying that a spyder espirit will shoot just as fast, not break paint, and work as well as my timmy? he!! no. just dont speak bro k? im so sick of listening to this spyder crap. its a bunch of bull.


now u say its robber they can charge 400 for different milling? well, its even more highway robbery that WGP can charge 1000 more for a cocker with different milling and a cheap electronic sear tripper frame.

[ringmasta187]

Good for u, it sounds like your an educated consumer, way to be.
And i wasnt trying to mimic u, i was just being a smart *** and saying that if i didnt think before i typed i would just put random key strokes on my posts. U on the other hand obviously thought about your post and purposely held the shift key in to write your comment. I was in no way trying to insult u, uve already stated your not buying the marker for show, yet i still hold the opinion that many do. And i still feel that all timmies are 400-600 $ overpriced.
They main point is dont buy what people tell u to buy, buy what u like, but if you ask for an opinion, ur gonna get some u dont like, and u should never get ticked off about something u asked for.

[JT2002]

ok most of ur last sentence with buying what u feel is good i agree with. but the spyder stuff, yak

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

...i do buy what i feel like

yes i did ask for opinions i'm sorry for going all ^)%$*&^)&$^)&#t^)*&#%()*&$#^)%(&*#^%)(#^%)*&#^$ on you

[cockersuk14]

i would definitely have to say the timmy. I have seen guys rip with them at local fields its amazing. Although the e- blade is sweet i'd definitely have to go agianst it. I have heard of numerous problem with em. My friend even back out of getting one for his 02 cocker just for that reason. I would look for some other different options though.Being the proud owner of a mag i would have to recommend an emag. However u might also look to an Angel Speed, they rip. I have shot one and we found out it was ripping at 22 bps! You could get em for around $900 too.

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

emags do look nice but i don't know much about them. I will take it into consideration when i test out markers at the field i go to.

Angels...i know they are good but they don't look all that great to me. I dunno. I'll be testing out a lot of markers.

[ringmasta187]

hey jt2002, hows it goin. First off i dont praise cockers, they are upgraded pumps, but not cheaply. A 3way, ram, lpr, timing rod and pump arm are not easily made cheap parts. Unlike the timmies plastic tubes that run from its solenoid (instead of a manifold) And i never said an espirit would keep up witha timmy. An espirit is a spyder with a electric grip frame, a timmy is an elctro pneumatic spyder, plain and simple. If u take a spyder and timmy apart the only main diff is the solenoid, plus the timmy has steel tubes pressed into it (top quality for ya)As for not speaking, i think you should take your own advice.
And yes the prices wdp charges for an e orracle is robbery aswell, but not as much as a timmy is.

[Steelrat]

Just be forewarned, the emag is a bit different than the other two choices. The emag is not "en vouge" nor does AGD pay as much attention to looks. I myself love the looks, as it looks more purposeful. Its heavier, but that is just indicative of its engineering, and can be lightened with AGD parts. In the price range you are talking, though, you might want to examine xmags. You might have to wait a while, or search a bit, but when spending thousands of dollars, why rush? Hell, I make more than enough to buy any marker out there, and I still researched for a few months, then bought a used emag.

But again, buy what works best for you. And if you choose wrong, you can always flip it and only lose a couple hundred