ULE Trigger Moving Forward!!!

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  • AGD
    The man from AGD

    • Oct 2000
    • 5916

    #1

    ULE Trigger Moving Forward!!!

    AO,

    After more testing and observation of first time users, we have decided that short stroking the trigger is only likely to happen when you fan or walk the trigger. When used for single shots it works great.

    We added more reactivity into proto "C" but the trigger ran away easily so we are going to make the version everyone has tested. The prints are done and the parts are ordered. Depending on the machine shops schedule we could get them in a few weeks. We are pushing to have them by IAO for sure.

    We will be doing a limited release here on AO as a test run as soon as they come in. The price will be between 50-75 dollars. The only thing you need to change is the on/off assembly.

    Much like the LvL10 you will have to make some adjustments to tune it in. These adjustments involve getting the on/off pin length right. With our old setup you had to change on/off pins to get the right length, with the ULE Trigger you add shims to do the same thing. As stated before, some valves will not take this mod. If you have two orings down in the bottom of your on/off hole you are good to go. It might be possible to drill out valves that have one o-ring but we will not be doing that. I am sure a bunch of people will step up to do it for a fee.

    So to recap, fanning or walking causes short strokes UNLESS you learn to shoot the trigger right. Some people can others can't. The trigger is still slightly reactive but not as much as the standard RT valve. You only have to switch on/off parts and the old parts can go back in in seconds. The trigger pull will instantly go down from 3 LBS to ABOUT 15 oz. This sounds like a lot but the stock Emag trigger is 8 oz and most angel triggers are 5-6 oz.

    The parts are fragile because they are very thin. The new on/off pin in this mod is .030" wide which is like a pencil lead. If you take it apart roughly you can bend it and your done. We WILL NOT be warranteeing bent or broken on/off pins. We are considering them a consumable part for dummies. If you bend one you can replace it but it takes some skill.

    We will be putting this in the RTpros after testing. We are not sure if it will go stock in Emags yet because less reactivity slows down the solenoid plunger. It does work in the emag but limits your top speed somewhat.

    Ok I have tried to answer all possible questions here. I am going on my annual fossil trip so I will be out of communicaton until after July 4th. I really think you will LOVE this trigger as long as you know what to expect. I am shooting it all the time now. I truely believe its the lightest mech trigger out there and even beats the swings. I will notify you here when its a few days from the store.

    Thanks!!

    AGD
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  • Sparks
    Registered User
    • Oct 2002
    • 94

    #2
    well, i had a thread about this, but couldn't hurt....

    could this make an AGD electro frame viable due to the possibility of a smaller and lower power solenoid required for reliable actuation?
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    • nerobro
      Registered User
      • Oct 2001
      • 923

      #3
      Beats the swings? That's not saying much. This trigger really excites me :-) I can't wait to get my hands one one and take a good look at it.

      *forsees saving up and picking up an xvalve so he can use this*

      I"ll be there for the classes :-)
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      • AGD
        The man from AGD

        • Oct 2000
        • 5916

        #4
        We will not comment on the possibilities this mod has for an E-Frame but lets just say its part of a much bigger picture.

        AGD
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        • SlipknotX556
          Registered User
          • Nov 2001
          • 5054

          #5
          Thats great Tom. I was planing on getting another timmy at the end of the summer, but since all these upgrades have come into the mag world, I think I may just have to get another mag.

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          • muirtach
            Registered User
            • Apr 2002
            • 232

            #6
            If anyone waits to get an X-valve until the new on/off is included will we get a standard on/off to switch out if needed.

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            • AutomagBoy
              Property of US MarineCorps
              • Feb 2003
              • 283

              #7
              I still think it's a bad idea, but its your business.

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              • Dayspring
                aka- The Day Wang

                • May 2001
                • 9664

                #8
                I like that sentence.

                Originally posted by AGD
                We will not comment on the possibilities this mod has for an E-Frame but lets just say its part of a much bigger picture.

                AGD

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                • joeyjoe367
                  Confirmed 11 bps RT User!
                  • May 2001
                  • 1982

                  #9
                  Ok, so will this 'still be an "Add-on" to the X-Valve Package?

                  So it's, X-Valve, LvL 10, and ULE Trigger for $325 or $225 + Valve?

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                  • WarBUCKs

                    #10
                    WOOT... Now I know!!!! (and knowing is half the battle)

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                    • TAW
                      wait, what?

                      • Dec 2002
                      • 271

                      #11
                      Thank you Tom

                      YES.. This ULE trigger is exciting. I won't be needing it,I've tuned my RTP by input pressure and on/off pin to were it has sweet reactivity with no bounce. My wife on the other hand is a little too womanly to pull a mag with out an Intelliframe but now with this mod she will ROCK!! Way to go AGD

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                      • WarBUCKs

                        #12
                        OH yah... I also wanted to ask. What is are "Swings?" Sounds like some sort of Tourettes.
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                        • joeyjoe367
                          Confirmed 11 bps RT User!
                          • May 2001
                          • 1982

                          #13
                          Originally posted by WarBUCKs
                          OH yah... I also wanted to ask. What is the "Swings."
                          AutoCocker "Hinge" triggers, AKA "Swing" Triggers.

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                          • WarBUCKs

                            #14
                            Thanks for the input Joey

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                            • Cryer
                              Paintball is over.
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 4105

                              #15
                              Awesome. It's part of a much bigger picture. That's just means more money I have to spend...

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