Whats the worst new E blowback???

[bryceeden]

I actually like the e-spyders, they arn't mags, but they arn't trying to be. I would say the GTVE is the worst just because it is so easy to break.

[~WarpedRT#2~]

On the Spyder/Piranha debate...

I've shot tons and tons of Spyders. I've fixed tons, and tons more of them. And every single Spyder I've fixed, and shot, it couldnt hold a candle to my old STOCK STS. I believe this is because PMI makes their markers to a higher standard. There arent ugly solder marks around the powerfeed like on Spyders. My STS wouldnt break paint, or chop at all, unlike almost every Spyder I've come across. And the customer service for PMI is fantastic. There are more differences than just the strikers (I guess you mean hammers). I feel that PMI makes a much higher quality gun than Kingman can.

I also believe that a customized Piranha can stay up there with the big guns, but remember, it isnt the gun that matters. It's the player pulling the trigger. You could put a Piranha in my hands today, and I'd still be the same player I was with my E-Mag.

[Nomad]

JT EXCELLERATORS!!

[Mossman]

I've got a pirhana with storm frame sitting in my closet. It's definately the most solid of any blowback i've ever felt, but it sucks too much for me to use. The fact that no_doz likes it is enough for me to banish it to the closet forever.

Anyhow, rebels are complete and utter trash. 32* blows as much as references to popping pills on internet forums.

[FalconGuy016]

The best eframe is the piranha one, it almost doesnt matter what gun it is

[Kevmaster]

this is rediculous...they're all identical....

sure kingman has their spinner wheels to choose what they put on the marker next, but there's no difference betweena spyder blah and a rebel X and a phirrana Y...they're all hte SAME!!! If you think one sucks, they ALL Suck. If you think ones cool..they're ALL cool

[FalconGuy016]

Originally posted by Kevmaster
this is rediculous...they're all identical....

sure kingman has their spinner wheels to choose what they put on the marker next, but there's no difference betweena spyder blah and a rebel X and a phirrana Y...they're all hte SAME!!! If you think one sucks, they ALL Suck. If you think ones cool..they're ALL cool

Do you even know what you are talking about. Go to your shop and try out the different cheap electro trigger, they are very different.

[no_doz]

kevmaster, even though i appreciate your input, remember 1.read 2.comprehend 3.post. and mossman, please remove step 3 from the process whereas u never have anything positive to say.... thanx!

[Kevmaster]

no_doz...yes, i raed, i just wanted you to know your post was total hog wash

Falcon: yes, lets see...i had a Spyder Sonix, a Black Dragun, a GTVe, a Phirrana something, and a Rebel Extreme or something all on the wall..they were all the exact same junk if you ask me

thats like saying a spyder TL+ is better thana phirrana pro or something

[FalconGuy016]

Originally posted by Kevmaster
no_doz...yes, i raed, i just wanted you to know your post was total hog wash

Falcon: yes, lets see...i had a Spyder Sonix, a Black Dragun, a GTVe, a Phirrana something, and a Rebel Extreme or something all on the wall..they were all the exact same junk if you ask me

thats like saying a spyder TL+ is better thana phirrana pro or something

Are those electronic?

[no_doz]

sorry for washin the hog bud. lol

[ReTro Boy]

We have E-Pirahnas, E-Spyders, E-Rebels, Icon-E (E-99 ripoff) and the E-JT in our store and I'll have to say that the triggers are very different. If the simple fact that they are blowbacks makes them "trash", then so be it...but they are not all the same. There are higher quality blowbacks and low quality blowbacks.

That said, The E-Rebel is the worst I've seen. Besides the really bad trigger pull, the solenoid is WAY to weak. If you are shooting low and put in a harder spring, the solenoid doesn't have the power to pull the sear with the added pressure. It's just sad...

I've been very impressed with the PMI Pirahna E-Force markers. They are inexpensive, very good trigger pulls, quality parts and craftsmanship, great warranty, and best of all, it's made in the USA.

[-Carnifex-]

My E-99 shoots great.

[no_doz]

my friend has an e99 and its awful, the piranhas are just flat out higher quality blowbacks. If u bought the right upgrades a blowback could hang with the upper class, the only good stock one ive ever shot was my old bd, and my cousins pro ts and it is great, the bd wasnt consistant, but the trigger was very good and it didnt break.

[lew]

There is nothing like a completely aftermarket Spyder that operaes at 300 psi, efficiently. Thats what mine shall be in a short while. But, I agree with those of you that say all those E-frames suck. Stick to mechanical.