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  • BlueMagRT
    Assimilated Member
    • Jul 2001
    • 185

    #16
    i went from a stingray 2 to an automag RT
    found i didn't like to fix the gun more than i played with it.

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    • Cliffio
      No Sig's or Av's is Gay
      • Nov 2001
      • 4592

      #17
      uhhhh i had a spyder but no mag, only angel
      whats up with that?
      Cliff
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      • Me
        Registered User
        • May 2001
        • 529

        #18
        theroaticly it should be tippy's to mag's becuase they are both very durable, sorry if someone already said this....it's late, and i dont feel like reedin
        damn you people...go back to your shanties~~~Shooter

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        • Prezents
          UNITED WE STAND
          • May 2001
          • 1149

          #19
          Hummm which way,,,,

          I started with a pump gun and then went to my mag

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          • davej946
            All Around Good Guy!!
            • May 2001
            • 463

            #20
            Quite the opposite:
            I have a Tippmann SL-68II and a Model98. I got both due to their high reliability, which led to my Mag. I have avoided, and will continue to do so, the whole Spydder/Cocker family of guns due to their high maintenance requirements and constant downtime. Just my .02.

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            • MajorDamage
              King of Polyester!
              • Dec 2000
              • 3141

              #21
              Never owned a Tippmann, I have owned 3 Spyders(plus some spyder ripoffs), and I have a mag. Your theory isnt real! NO!!!!

              ENDO!
              Oldskool

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              • ThePatriot

                #22
                MUAHAHAHA i am correct...in some cases, 3 spyders and some rip offs to a mag, theres all the evidence you will ever need....EVER

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                • Paintchucker

                  #23
                  I am like Blennidae and started on an F2 Illustrator. I still have it but it sits in the closet mostly. The difference in the Mag and the F2 is quite amazing! After all these years, I have never shot a cocker. I guess I will have to try one someday.

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                  • IWannaRiot979
                    ::TeamMint::
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 380

                    #24
                    I went from Spyder to Mag, but not for any maintenance issue. My main reason for the Mag was that my 6 months of playing with my Spyder was mainly at a small indoor field, which caused me to develop a front player style of play. This naturally led me to the compactness of the Mag when I decided I needed a higher level gun. Oh yeah, not to mention, I picked up my mag very slightly used (only like 6 times) for $250. I got to have my new gun NOW, instead of another month for the $100 more and order a cocker.

                    -Riot
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                    • Evil Bob
                      Evil Overlord
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 1217

                      #25
                      The markers I have owned...

                      I started playing in 1982 when there was no pumps, no auto anythings, all we had was what was out at the time, the Nelspot 007, it was BOLT action and held 5 rounds. The bolt was usually so tight and hard to work with it was very close to being a muzzle loaded marker (ala black power rifles concept). From there people cut off the end of the tubes the paintballs came in and taped it to the rear of the Nelspot marker so it would hold 10 rounds, not that they could shoot any faster being bolt action and all, but they just had more rounds to TRY to shoot faster with.

                      1983 saw the appearance of a new marker, the SplatMaster, mostly green plastic, it looked cheap in comparison to the Nelspot, but it could shoot a bit faster. The SplatMaster was rear push bolt cocking, you just used the thumb of the shooting hand to reload the marker... well, it actually took both thumbs as they had some hard springs and after a day of playing with it you'd switch back to using a bolt action Nelspot. The accuracy of the SplatMaster left alot to be desired.

                      About the same time in 1983 some Einstein found out you could take a section of PVC pipe, cut a notch in it so it would fit around the barrel on the Nelspot and screw it into the bolt, hence the pump was born. Since the bolt had a lock (you moved it forward and then down to lock the chamber closed) you had to hold the pump forward to get the balls to shoot out. If you didn't hold it tight enough, you'd get alot of blow back through the reciever and the ball wouldn't shoot as far.

                      1985 - Enter Bengimin Sheriden, long know for making quality air rifles, started producing the PGP (marketed through PMI) which was a pump based stack tube marker that held 10 rounds, had a longer barrel then the NelSpot and the SplatMaster, could load and shoot faster, and was all around a great marker for the time, a revolutionary product. The PGP was the base blueprint for most markers that were introduced from then on, including the Autococker.

                      1987 - Bought a PMI KP3, it was simply the coolest marker I have ever owned, Bengimin Sheridan quality through and through.

                      1988 - Line SI introduced the Bush Master, a long barrel pump on which you could hold the trigger back and pump away rapid fire. PMI also introduced longer barrel versions of the PGP they called the Pirhana line.

                      1989 - PMI came out with the PMI III (now seen as the VM68) from Bengimin Sheridan, semi auto, gas guzzling, heavy... it rocked! Almost all moderm semi markers are based on this design (Spyders, Pirhanas, etc.)

                      1992 - Bought my first Automag, once I shot it I quietly packed away all my other markers as they wouldn't be used again...ever.

                      1994 - Bought any Autococker, the usually closed bolt vs. open bolt debate blah blah blah... it was fun to tinker on as there were so many things that could go wrong with it. When it worked, it was sweet, when it went out of timing, it was a nightmare.

                      1997 - Bought any Angel. Like the Autococker, it had alot of things that could go wrong on it, but unlike the Autococker, it was NOT fun to tinker with. 6 months later bought a second one as a back up. It's NO FUN to have an Angel go down during a tournament and run around begging someone to lend you their marker to play the rest of the tourny with...

                      1998 - Bought an RT, it outshot my Angel in cycling speed but also ate alot of paint in the process, it had a voracious appetite, still does. It was a toss up between the Angel and the RT... raw speed and no electronics vs less broken paint and a finicy marker... I ended up using the RT more, the two Angels I had spent alot of time in the shop. RT was just so damn relaible.

                      2000 - Bought an Angel LCD, it, like it's other two brothers, it spent time in the shop getting the micro switch replaced, getting the LCD replaced, getting the 14 way worked on, getting the solonoid replaced, etc... got rid of my previous Angels and bought a second LCD 3 months later, again as a back up.

                      2001 - Bought the Emag with a warpfeed...and quietly packed all my other markers into a padded box to never be used again...

                      What will I buy next? An Xtreme body, a HALO, and (when it's done) the trap door module for the Xtreme body. From there? Who knows...

                      -Evil Bob

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                      • Thordic
                        AFTICA
                        • May 2001
                        • 5986

                        #26
                        Riotz and myself both went from Spyders to mags

                        OUr friend John is going from Tippman to Mag soon

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                        • Drizit
                          Take me to your Lizzard
                          • May 2001
                          • 943

                          #27
                          I went the opposite way of most people. I borrowed a friend's mag and then went out and bought one. I have since picked up an M98 with a response trigger to use as a backup/primary when I'm in the mood. but when I'm done with it my M98 will probably only see action in big games, due to it's weight. anyone seen the Tippmann grenade launcher?
                          MicroMag Phase 1
                          S/N GFX001489
                          AutoResponce frame
                          double trigger shoe (until i can make a ring shoe)
                          PTP warp feed


                          And the Biggest, Heaviest, 19+bps'ist Tippmann you have ever seen.

                          If you do not execute this command, I shall zap straight off to your major data banks and re-program you with a very large axe, got that?



                          There must have been a time
                          when we could have said no.

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                          • Bonx0007
                            AO SOCAL OG
                            • Sep 2001
                            • 1388

                            #28
                            I am a tippmann mag person. I went for the company.Only good customer service for me.

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                            • kenshinkandon
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2001
                              • 304

                              #29
                              Started with tippman's procarbine and moved to a
                              mag(favorite), shocker, bushy, and autococker. I started out with the tippman because I did my homework on alot of different guns by asking what kind of maintence will I have to do. and will I know what the hell everything on the gun will do so that I can fix it. Tippman appealed to by being reiable and I still bring it with me to the field jsut in case but I havent had to use it since I got my mag.
                              Obstacles are what you see when you take your eyes off of your Objective.

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                              • Shaft
                                Big Mean Ugly Ogre
                                • Sep 2001
                                • 797

                                #30
                                Spyder to Mag. Wanted a Cocker until I noticed they were always being fixed in the target range.

                                Cool history on markers, Evil Bob. Even better because you included how they worked - or didn't work.

                                I'm planning my next gun. I want an Extreme Mag.

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