I would definitely get the cocker over a Palmers gun if you want performance. I had a typhoon for several years and though it was cool looking, in every other way I would pick a hinge cocker over it (weight, speed, upgradability, accuracy, etc). Just my opinion as someone who has owned both.
Cocker or PPS Stroker
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ok you're right about weight and upgradablity...
typhoons are heavy
but i don't agree with speed...
i have a double trigger with pro-touch(trigger job)
i think it rocks just as much as any hinge out there
after all it is a hinge
and accuracy
pfft
maybe there's something wrong with your 'phoon or something
but mine is far more accurate than my last cocker was
if you were to break it down into components...
a palmer stabilizer is much more consistant than the ergo reg
palmer rock...same thing...
the 3 ways...eh i guess they're about the same now...but compared to the '98 cocker i had... the palmer blew it awayTheDuelist "The problem is that Tom has developed the VW Beetle of the paintball industry. It's almost too good to change and far too reliable."
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Accuracy is generally a factor of a well tuned marker and a barrel to paint match. Although Palmer claims that valve to barrel match is the more important all evidence I have seen locally, ie taken with a grain of salt, points to a good barrel + good paint = good precision, since accuracy is a very hard to pin down term in paintball.
Unfortunatly with the Palmer Typhoon we had it was to large for our 686 paint.
The Rock vs. the Sledgehammer, really other than the external adjustment I have found very little difference in the two.
3 way, I like the QS better but the stock is a fine piece of equipment.
Not all hinges are made the same either. Stabalizer is a better regulator than the stock WGP, mainly due to external adjustment, but that is not stock equipment on a palmer marker.
The 97 cockers were much much different than the current 2k3 cockers. Valving, 3way, Trigger, dimensions, ect. The 2k3 is an excellent out of the box marker, again I reiterate. Wiegh uniqueness vs price/availability/adjustment. The Cocker will "win" when comparing features, but on the same boat a ULE Emag and a Xmag are very similiar but the XMags are much more highly sought after due to the uniquness. The other major downer the cocker as is the resale value is generally low. Of course that means you can buy a nicely upgraded one for cheap...
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well 2k3 cockers are A LOT nicer than 98's were
i guess there really isn't as much of a difference as there used to be between a custom palmer and a stock 2k3 cocker
peformance wise...
it really all comes down to one thing
PERSONAL PREFERENCE
yah no one wants to hear that, but it' truth with 100% of these ______ OR ______ threads
you have to try both if you can and decide for yourself
i guess i really shouldve said this in the first place(but i'm biased :P )TheDuelist "The problem is that Tom has developed the VW Beetle of the paintball industry. It's almost too good to change and far too reliable."
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Just to let you guys know, a Typhoon and a Stroker are different guns. The Typhoon is built from the ground up by hand where the Stroker is convered. As I pointed out, a Stroker will have a less efficient valve and a they have a non-rotating hammer, which both in a round about way makes for a heavier trigger pull.
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I had a trigger job and a 2 finger trigger on my typhoon also. Of course from Palmers those would be $140 extra!! IMO it was still not as fast as a 2003 cocker.
As for accuracy, my point is a typhoon (unless its a BBT one) has a fixed barrel. That is no match for a freak or any other multi ID barrel set.
"if you were to break it down into components...
a palmer stabilizer is much more consistant than the ergo reg"
A stabilizer is not stock on a typhoon (though I had one on mine). They are a $100+ option.
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