Short Stroking tips

[m-98]

Today I played a game with my Mag for the first time and I chopped (my fault, short stroking) and had many double feeds. I was wondering if anyone could give me some tips on how to learn the trigger and not short stroke. If it helps, I was using 32* Team Colors. Thanks.

[IcantBelieveit]

team colors is decent, buy a level ten and never chop again. But just practice letting the trigger come all the way forward before proceeding with the next shot. Thats about the only thing i know to tell you

[Lohman446]

I have constantly shortstroked my own minimag - my solution to this was to adjust the sear back a long ways - where the manual says something about a piece of paper between trigger and sear I have more air than sear pin showing. This seems to have helped me and I dont seem to have any side effects from it.

[m-98]

Thanks, I ordered a Level 10 when I ordered my Mag, but it is not here yet. I ordered my Lvl 10 5 weeks ago but it's not in yet, and I have no idea why.

[Ityl]

replace your pt oring

[rikkter]

Originally posted by m-98
Thanks, I ordered a Level 10 when I ordered my Mag, but it is not here yet. I ordered my Lvl 10 5 weeks ago but it's not in yet, and I have no idea why.

o.O
i'd call the company and ask them whats up with that. theres not a shortage of them as far as i believe

[AutomagRT1483]

I short stroke when i pull the trigger all the way back to the frame. Try pulling your trigger about half-way, it work for me.

[m-98]

Originally posted by Ityl
replace your pt oring

The gun is brand new.

[Crighton]

Concentrate more on laying balls on target and less on cranking on the trigger (3-4 days of play). After a while you will learn the feel of the trigger when its completely let out the on/off valve. Then work more on your ability to crank out balls, it will be second nature at that point.




Check your ball detent make sure its ok. Possible reason for double feeds.

[TheTramp]

Originally posted by Crighton
Concentrate more on laying balls on target and less on cranking on the trigger (3-4 days of play). After a while you will learn the feel of the trigger when its completely let out the on/off valve. Then work more on your ability to crank out balls, it will be second nature at that point.

As Crighton says, taking a little time to learn the Mag's trigger will stop most short-stroking. After you get a feel for it you can ramp up the speed.

Of course when your L10 comes in you wont have to worry about short-stroking anyway.

P.S. Team Colors is fine paint. Not the best out there but perfectly fine. It sounds like your trigger finger was the cause of your chops and double feeds, not your paint.

[m-98]

I don't like Team Colors because it didn't shoot well in my Flatline, and this stuff is a couple weeks old, I forgot to metion that.

[xen_100]

Originally posted by Lohman446
I have constantly shortstroked my own minimag - my solution to this was to adjust the sear back a long ways - where the manual says something about a piece of paper between trigger and sear I have more air than sear pin showing. This seems to have helped me and I dont seem to have any side effects from it.

dont do this! you should never touch the trigger rod. shortening it can lead to the sear not fully disengaging and the on/off not fully being turned off. that can lead to non-firing and bad chrono results. lengthening it leads to bolt and sear wear. it is set perfectly from the factory, dont touch it.

[dcmander]

Originally posted by xen_100


dont do this! you should never touch the trigger rod. shortening it can lead to the sear not fully disengaging and the on/off not fully being turned off. that can lead to non-firing and bad chrono results. lengthening it leads to bolt and sear wear. it is set perfectly from the factory, dont touch it.

On my micromag with a single trigger frame, the sear was great. I changed to an intelliframe. The trigger would not even set the pin off. I lengthened it. Seems to work fine now, whats wrong with that? It is about a creditcard width away from the trigger now.

[Crighton]

Originally posted by dcmander


On my micromag with a single trigger frame, the sear was great. I changed to an intelliframe. The trigger would not even set the pin off. I lengthened it. Seems to work fine now, whats wrong with that? It is about a creditcard width away from the trigger now.

Thats usually caused by a tollerance issue between the body/rail/trigger frame. Had the same problem with my mag when I got the intelli. Field strip bushing was not sitting all the way into the intelli/omega rail and was holding the valve and body up about 1mm. Took a screw driver and banged the bushing down into the intelli and rail. Works fine now with out messing with the trigger rod length.

[xen_100]

Originally posted by dcmander


On my micromag with a single trigger frame, the sear was great. I changed to an intelliframe. The trigger would not even set the pin off. I lengthened it. Seems to work fine now, whats wrong with that? It is about a creditcard width away from the trigger now.

that is not an AGD product and the tolerances are different. as long as the trigger rod is set to the correct length, there is nothing wrong with it. when you try to do a "trigger job" by shortening or lengthing it, thats when you will run into problems.