Custom Trigger jobs?

[Arman/XPM]

Hello all,
When I went to the local paintball store, to have my nitro filled, the shop owner told me that I could turn the trigger pin, or something like that(that little peice behind the trigger) to touch closer to my trigger, so I would not have to pull on it as much.
Now, I some people have told me to watch out for Automags that have been tampered with, in the trigger area.
Should I do it, or will it ruin my gun?

[Cliffio]

well i wouldnt reccomend doing it yourself if u dont really know what to do, been there done that

if you would do it i would have someone that knows what they are doin do it

Cliff

[MajorDamage]

NO! Do not let ANYONE give it a trigger job. Mags are set as best as they can be from the factory. Giving your gun a trigger job will mess up the timing!

ENDO!

[Arman/XPM]

Thank you guys.

Majordamage,
can you give me some insight on that?

[AngelBoy]

I don't know major, id say somebody at AGD could probably hook him up with a sweet trigger pull. But other than that I wouldnt let anybody touch it, I've only seen one mag trigger thats had a doityourself job on it and worked right.

[Bartleby]

probably wouldn't mess with it. you might call AGD and see what they say.

[Army]

Arman/XPM, The trigger on a Mag is set at the factory to be optimal in relation to opening and closing of the on/off valve, and release and capture of the bolt by the sear. The trigger does both jobs, the timing of the bolt and valve are dependent on the factory setting to be correct.

Any "trigger job" you may know of, is destined to bring about; leaks, rapid bolt wear, rapid sear wear, chops, and an eventual trip to AGD to be repaired. The factory techs, and AGD trained techs, have buckets of worn and failed parts due to the so called trigger jobs that are out there.

Leave your trigger alone. Letting it wear honestly will soon make the trigger lighter, safely. If you insist on wanting a better trigger, consider buying a ReTro Valve. The ReTro "reacts" the trigger, the reaction is tuned by how much air pressure you are allowing from your tank.

[Tunaman]

Besides what everyone on this forum has just said, If you attempt to give that Mag I just sold you a "Trigger Job", It will void any warranty with me. Leave it alone! It will wreck that masterpiece I built for you! And tell that guy in the store you just mentioned that I said he doesn't know what he is talking about!

[Drizit]

Ok, here I go putting my neck on the block.

if you really want a bit less slop in the trigger there is only one safe way to do it (and what happens to your warranty as a result is between you and Tunaman, so talk it over with him first) gas up your gun and use pliers to turn out the trigger rod until there is about a paper's with of space between it and the back of the trigger. Remember, and this is important when the gun is gassed up you should still be able to see light between the end of the trigger rod and the back of the trigger. if you go too far you will mess up the action of the gun, it may cause the sear and bolt to ware prematurely. if you decide you REALLY, REALLY want to do it, you talk with Tunaman about your warranty, and you have any questions go ahead and ask me.

also as to it messing up your gun's timing. Mag's don't have a timing you can mess up like a cocker does. with a mag it's all about the distance of travel. if you don't let the sear go all the way forward then the on/off may still be partly closed, and it won't grab the bolt where it should. if a trigger stop is put in and the sear doesn't go all the way back anymore then the on/off may not get closed all the way causing inconsistent velocity and the bolt may stick on the top of the sear instead of returning like it's supposed to. If you are going to do this you have to do it right or not at all. second you have to beside if you ACTUALLY want to change the trigger pull.

you may all proceed to deride me now. however keep in mind that when done properly this trigger job works. Also the factory setting is the best AVERAGE setting, not necessarily the best for YOUR mag and for you as a player.

[mac2k4]

if ya want a light, short trigger, ya going to have to get some type of electronic frame(booyah, hyperframe...) Other than that you'll still be able to shortstroke, shoot slow

[AirChunck]

The more you use the sear and valve, from what I've been told, the wear slowly lightens the trigger pull. Other than that, the only trigger jobs I've ever heard of was some light grinding of the sear. They want 35 $us for a automag trigger job at my local paintball shop.

[Drizit]

please... please... don't let anyone grind, polish, or in any other way modify your bolt and sear. in most cases you will just end up getting new ones. some people get it to work but it ends up cutting the life span of the parts in half. just deal with the weight of the pull. if it really bugs you then the Z-Valve has been known to lighten the pull. It and the Reactor valve are about the only valve modifications that do anything for you. if you want a more reactive trigger, go out and get two on/off pins. grind the fist one down a bit at a time. keep trying it in the gun. when your trigger starts to double fire, or you get the lawn sprinkler effect stop. then grind the second one down just a bit less. if you screw up and make the second one too short put the stock one back in and go buy another one to grind. never and I do mean never grind your stock one. that way every time you grind too much off you can put the stock on/off pin back in and play, knowing you gun will work the way it was intended.

also I don't recommend doing this until you learn everything about how your mag works.

[MajorDamage]

What Army said. Don't give it a trigger job. It may work for a while, but you will have problems with tolerance, and other stuff. DON'T BREAK MAGS! THEY RULE!

ENDO!

[mag_pbg]

[Drizit]

no. shortening your on/off pin wont make it any softer. it will make it kick back more after you fire, it helps a bit with short stroking, but I don't recommend you do it until you fully understand the consequences.
first off have a few extra before you even start.
second have an extra bolt because if you make it too short you will chew up the bolt.
also if you make it too short your gun may fire when you release the trigger sometimes, it may even fire a few times. be very very carful with this mod.
also if you do Go ahead and do it keep in mind that you only need to take very little off the end of the pin for it to work. as in almost an invisible amount. if for any reason after you do this your gun starts to act in any way twitchy, put your unmodified stock on/off pin that you took out and put in a safe place, that Tunaman gave you with the gun back in and then try to trouble shoot anything else.