Getting fed up with the Emag

[Steelrat]

Okay, I really want to like my Emag, but im getting fed up with my inability to get a good ROF on it. With the trigger set up for a light quick pull, im having severe problems trying to walk the trigger. Granted, Im relatively new to the whole walking thing, but I was able to walk a timmy trigger a lot better when I tried one. That player was shooting awesome strings of paint the last time I played, my marker was barely keeping up with the rental spyders. Now, I can go the hybrid route, but that essentially screws up the e-mode trigger pull, and may be viewed poorly at field when I commence with what sounds like full-auto fire.

I just got back into paintball not to long ago, and went straight to AGD products for a new marker, based upon my old impressions of them. Now, however, I must admit I am seriously considering other markers, including:

Rat Impulse-looks GREAT, and supoosedly there are mods to get it to the point that it just pinches balls, has vision to boot

Matrix-custom ones look good, again a ball-pincher

Timmy-fast, though I hate jumping on the bandwagon

Viking-Great reviews, but EGADS, its ugly as sin. I mean, my VM-68 looks sleek and advanced next to this box, and its shoebox bretheren, the Excaliber. I love good mechanicals as much as the next guy, but im not sure I can get past the looks.

When I got the emag used, it was never a question of cost. $1000 for happiness is a far better choice than $600 for unhappiness. Maybe I'm just doing something wrong, or not exhibiting enough patience. Is there someone who, for a fee, sets up Emag triggers properly for rapid fire? I'd love to try every avenue before I ditch the Emag.

Thanks in advance for the help.

[sneakyhacker420]

take out the sear rod

and play around with the magnet stack combinations

you'll eventually find the right setup that you can absolutely RIP on


it'll disable hybrid and manual mode, but its one hell of a gun once you get the magnets right

[Steelrat]

What does taking out the sear rod do to improve the e-mode? Right now I'm running one magnet with a small o-ring underneath, which seems to be the favored configuration, but walking the trigger results in random spurts of fire. I'm just trying to find the benefit of finding the holy grail of combinations for ripping versus getting rapid fire right out of the box.

Again, I really really really (and so on) want to like my emag. If only because I never see anyone else using it. I want them to go "damn, check it out" not "I guess thats why no one buys those things."

[BajaBoy]

Originally posted by sneakyhacker420
take out the sear rod

Why would he want to do that? it just takes away from the marker.

Hey man, i have never shot a timmy or any other electonic besides some spyders. I lurned my emag trigger and i keep up with every gun i came across on the field. Only thing i can tell you is adjust the Hes stuff so its as small as it can be and put maybe one magnet in and prac walking it. You will get the hang of it in time.

[a_malfunction]

You might want to try a different magnet set up.... not everyone can shoot fast with the lightest trigger possible.... somepeople need a little bit more of a return... I would just rent a couple of SCUBA tanks and an fill station and play around all day till I found something that worked... it might just take a little bit of practice...

[Steelrat]

The only reason I've seen to take the sear rod out is to make it tourney legal (in the eyes of some refs, lets not open that can of worms again.) Im beginning to think that, mechanically, the trigger is simply incapable of keeping up with other e-triggers on some markers, and the only thing going for the emag is the pseudo-full auto hybrid trick. And I can't see using that making me any friends.

Help me before I run to the sell/trade forum!

[Skoad]

theres a whole thread on trigger adjusting that BlackVCG made here: http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...trigger+adjust

maybe check that out and fiddle around.

I'm still trying to perfect this effect on mine "You want it adjusted so that the firing point of the trigger is just before the END of the stroke. You want a bit of overtravel so it fires everytime, but you want it towards the end of the stroke so when you're shooting in rapid fire you don't have to let the trigger go all the way back forward to reset the HES so it can fire again. "

[sneakyhacker420]

i hit 14.7 bps on a BONE STOCK e-mag trigger


on a finely tuned one... i can get up to around 16 or 17



just gotta learn the trigger... or maybe get a blade trigger


or i'll modify it with my dremel so that it is a custom blade trigger with a very custom feel to it

[Steelrat]

Thanks skoad. unfortunately, I had alread read it, and while it is an excellent description of HOW to set up your trigger, it leaves it to the user to determine exactly what settings to use. And im not finding them, if they do, in fact, exist.

[nerobro]

it would appear you're confused. the viking, and excal are both electronic guns.

[Steelrat]

Yes, I can see how that could have seemed confusing. I should have said engineering, not mechanicals. I respect the engineering that went into the Viking and Excal, I just thing the looks are somewhat short of where they should be for markers in their price range.

[nerobro]

sokey ;-) I am kinda fond of the aka stuff. the looks don't bother me... if you've ever seen my cocker you might understand. (then again, look at what peopel pay for milled spyder bodys (timmys) it's kinda sad. Take a look at the JMJ milled vikings.. they're damned nice looking.

good luck on your marker hunt. If you were me, you'd tweak that emag trigger, they can be really sweet.

[FooTemps]

Odd, when I screwed around with blazestorm's first emag, I had no problems what so ever walking it. I also had no problems walking a timmy... or fanning a timmy...

[BlackVCG]

I really don't see why walking is "the way" to get a high ROF. I can throw paint as fast as needed by just rocking my wrist and putting my middle finger in the top shoe of the trigger.

I really think you should try different methods of firing. I for the life of me can't walk my E-Mag trigger, but I can shoot 13-14bps all day by rocking my wrist.

Make sure that you have your firing point set towards the very end of the stroke. Also, try different magnet settings for the return. You might need some extra return force.

[Steelrat]

ah-HA! THATS how you ripped off that nice string in that video! Thats one of the first truly original ideas i've heard. I'll go try that now.