AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
I've only owned one brand new gun and that was my 98c. I used it with the stock barrel and have to say it would qualify only if you're talking about first timers ease of use.
All of the rest of the guns I've owned have been used "problem children" that I've had to tinker with. The gun I've used "stock" (meaning un-upgraded) the most is my Phantom. It "needs" no upgrades. (I've since added a shoulder stock and ghost ring to it though so its no longer "stock".)
This is a very interesting thread, but maybe qualifiers need to be added. After all, if I paid more than $400 for a gun, it had better not need an upgrade right out of the box. Perhaps "Best Beginner's Gun", "Best Rec Ball Gun", "Best Tourney Gun" etc. would be a better idea. Comparing my 98c to an Autococker is like oranges and apples.
I'd have to say the absolute best out-of-the-box gun has to be the phantom. I know many people who have simply put on a tank (or 12gram if they choose), and threw some paint in a hopper(or SC tube) and went to town. People have played for years with their phantoms, no aftermarket barrels, no trips to an airsmith to get the electric doodads working again, no timing, no replacing parts constantly, no new internals needed,no nothing. That's why I'd say the phantom qualifies as the best out of box gun... even though I may be a bit biased .
I think the better question would be which gun has the best price/performance ratio...i.e. for a set price range which marker gives you the best bang for your buck...
Or better yet, why don't you kill yourself. No, really, die. Drop dead, don't leave a note, in fact burn your house while your little ego is stuck in a bench vice so that you'll also incenerate yourslef and everything you own with it. Because that's all you're worth. You're not even wirh thte time it'll take for the house to burn down, so just kill yourself. You're a waste of space. You are nothing, you always will be nothing. Don't leave a note, you're not worth the ink. - Tyger
I second that!:) RTP is the best out of box marker I've ever had.
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m98 is the best out of the box, the things are unbreakable? how many people do you know that have stripped the barrel threads on a tippy 98, how many guns do you know of that you can run co2 when its 12 degreese outside with your hands sticking to your gun and still be shooting consistantly
tippy 98 wins
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mac-1 Annihilater, used mine for 14 years right out of the box. best factory custom pump gun ever made.
it sat in the gun cabinet for a couple years at a time off and on, i could take it out, load and gas it up and go to town.
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