Tourney Legal VS Who Cares

[Skoad]

Originally posted by Wc Keep
well actually things that are tourney illegal are also field illegal. full auto burst modes no beavertails on cockers, these are all tourney illegals and also field illegals.

fields i play at don't care, the more paint people use the better for them.

[GT]

Originally posted by pito189


So is it cool if I go to college, drive a crappy car, but still spend most of my money on paint, and tourney entry fees?

Until I get out of college, and get a job, where I can actually afford to have a nice car, what is the point in driving some pimped out chick magnet? Me and my 85 Accord, with 220,000 plus miles, do just fine on our own.

ADDED: I am either having a practice for a tournament or playing in one.

I think you took my statement out of context. I did excatly as you did in school. There were many weeks of PB&J to pay for paint.

My statement was aimed at those who would rather play paintball then further educate themselves.

jb

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by shartley

While rec ball is great, we still need one set of rules to play by to be taken as a serious sport. Like backyard football or baseball, you use the NFL and MLB rules................

[shartley]

Originally posted by WARPED1
While rec ball is great, we still need one set of rules to play by to be taken as a serious sport. Like backyard football or baseball, you use the NFL and MLB rules................

[Muzikman]

Now, it's not all fields, but the two main fields around me that I have played at the most both follow tournament rules (NPPL) pretty close. And actually as things go they are a little more strict on thing such as bunkering. For instance, they do not allow Shocker Turbos. I don't think manufactures want to take the chance that the gear they make today will not be able to be used at any fields (Tournament or not) tomorrow. I mean this is already starting to happen and I'm sure it is costing them money.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Muzikman
Now, it's not all fields, but the two main fields around me that I have played at the most both follow tournament rules (NPPL) pretty close. And actually as things go they are a little more strict on thing such as bunkering. For instance, they do not allow Shocker Turbos. I don't think manufactures want to take the chance that the gear they make today will not be able to be used at any fields (Tournament or not) tomorrow. I mean this is already starting to happen and I'm sure it is costing them money.

[RRfireblade]

I think generally speaking,most people look up to the "Pros" of thier choice and buy what the "Pros" are using.As evidence of the common phrase,"It must be good 'cause you see Tourny players using it/them."

Also Paintball is expensive for most and they don't want to spend money on something that might lock them out of a Tourny even if the don't think they would play in one,just in case.

I also believe that most feel that something labeled "Not legal for Tourny play" must be cheating of some sort even in Rec ball play.What do most people feel about Full auto and burst modes? Most think it's cheating and unfair against others who have semi only guns.

As a whole I think most want to emulate the Pros in whatever sport they enjoy and feel better competing with "Legally" accepted equiptment.Of course there are some who will take any edge they can get and feel fine doing so.

Jay.

[Jerhew]

I also believe that most feel that something labeled "Not legal for Tourny play" must be cheating of some sort even in Rec ball play.What do most people feel about Full auto and burst modes? Most think it's cheating and unfair against others who have semi only guns.

what about grenades?
they're perfectly legal in anything but tournaments....
i'm not going to comment on the actual effectiveness of them
they're actually not that easy to use...
but they're definitely not tourney legal...

and the whole full auto thing is a total conspiracy...
i personally feel that it's not an unfair advantage in the
first place...but even when i used f/a i made sure everyone was okay with it and made sure that teams are even

when playing in a rec ball situation, it's important to split the teams evenly...
it'd be just as unfair to have a team of angels/emags...vs newbies with spyders as it would to put a group with full auto against them

and i hate to have to say it again(because i always say it)
but
what's more dangerous...a gun with a trigger you can breath on and it goes off
or full auto with a 1 pound pull...

most people in general are just misinformed and don't think for themselves.

[Halliday]

Most people "think" they are/could be Pros, look up to the Pros, and want to shoot the latest and greatest thing that the Pros are using.

[lamby]

I agree to a point.. If you want to make a rec/senerio marker or equipment sell it as such and post a disclamer like:

"This marker, in its current state, does NOT comply fully with the governing rules of the nppl/psp. Use of this marker in santioned tournament play, or play at certian governed recreational fields, may lead to disqualification, penaneltys, or suspensions. Purchase this item at your own risk."

Don't lie to the people like AGD did with the E/X mags, and say a marker is legal if it is not.

I mostly play tourney ball, a big game here and there, and maybe a "back to our roots" rec game. My equipment MUST be tourney legal. I dont care what you rec ballers do. If you use full auto or use illigal guns on your field I just wont play there.

My 2c

[oldsoldier]

Ah, the X-mag is fully tourney legal. No modes of fire.

[MidnightRider]

hmmmmm

I guess I don't know why the minority group/tourny players get to dictate how the majority/rec players play the game of paintball. IF I was to enter a tourny and my current setup was not leagal then I would adjust or switch markers. I have enough odds and ends in the toolbox to possibly build a whole new low end marker. And even if that didn't work I would just go to the field owner, as I would only play a tourny at my local field, and work out some way to enter the tourny leagaly.

Who cares if a rec player in a rec game is shooting full auto? It just allows them to go through their full paint supply for the game in just a minute or more. Makes for easy picking for me.

Like others have said... Just my $0.02

Peace

MR

[Meph]

Because things labeled tournament legal generally are also required any ways for all insurances.

Example, RVA. Hardly see them without "tourney-legal lock" right? Well that lock is also there for most rec-fields as well. Might be labeled "tourney" legal, but it's general fields as well.

Beaver tails, same thing. Locks on regulators too!


It's just a label.

[pito189]

Originally posted by lamby
Don't lie to the people like AGD did with the E/X mags, and say a marker is legal if it is not.

Again with this? I thought we resolved it as being an over zealous ref and your fault.

[aaron_mag]

Interesting discussion! I'll be interested to see what the tourney players post. Personally I'd love to try out more tournaments but other obligations make regular tournament play/practice an unrealistic option. That being said I tend to follow Shartley's line of thinking and focus on if the upgrade will be fun and leave it at that. To be honest all the debate on what is legal and illegal has confused the heck out of me. I still don't know if my retro is really legal or not but figured that it doesn't matter too much in my case.

One thing I wish they had, however, is rec tournaments. I play in a summer lacrosse league where you pay $85 for 8 games. There are no practices and it just is fun/for the heck of it. There are tons of softball/flag football leagues that people do as well. I think paintball is missing this element of recreational competition. Sort of off topic but if any leagues like that were created it makes you wonder if it would get bogged down in rules on markers (that Spyder has three modes of fire....etc) or if it would rely on the honor system and keep with the spirit of recreational competition.