Will the ULT change the fate of mags resale?

[Demobilized]

You have all heard the stories or most likely expeirenced them. 800 dollars mags going for 350 400 because there isn't any resale! But what I have been thinking is that with the ULE LX and ULT (ultra light trigger) that mags well gain some resale value. And maybe my gun might be worth more than a jar of peanut butter. So what do you all think? Will the ULT boost mags resale?

[Jerhew]

i personally don't care
i love my retro
and i'll love it even more with the ult
i'll never sell her

[JT2002]

wtf r u talkin about? i see all of those 800 dollar guns going for 600 at least, which isnt bad resale value. wtf r u saying?

[Johnny_Reb]

I think the ULT will have slightly increase a mag's resale value but nothing groundbreaking. I think the best bet to increase a mags resale would be a ULE Xvalve/LX. And ya JT hes right, the resale on mags is very low, unless you were being sarcastic or somethin.

[AcemanPB]

Well if I'm going to buy a used marker I usually try not to pay more than 60-70 percent of it's retail value.

If an E-mag cost ~ 900 new, then I would expect to pay around 550-600 for it used. Thats about what they are going for on AO.

One thing that surprises me is how much people will pay for used paintball equipment. Many times I will see people purchase used Angels and Cockers for 50-75 under retail!!

[GT]

You want to look at bad resale look at cockers. Most mag owners fail to realize that parting out your mag can get you dam close to what you payed retail.

jb

[FalconGuy016]

I think the 800 dollar guns being talked about are like very upgraded mechanical mags. Emags have relatively good resale, but not the respectively good upraded mags. A lot of people dont want a customized mag unless they can get it somewhat cheap.

[GoatBoy]

Originally posted by gtrsi
You want to look at bad resale look at cockers. Most mag owners fail to realize that parting out your mag can get you dam close to what you payed retail.

jb

I believe as far as budget is concerned...

With cockers, some people just can't keep their hands off their guns, so they'll upgrade... The same thing is happening with Spyders. Wow, now you have two three ways, two rams, two lp regulators, and two normal regulators. Way to go! Did you really increase performance? Pfft, marginally. If you consider the increase in performance vs. cost... it's a pretty grim picture.

I'm actually in the market for an old mag. I have a mag, and I know what it's capable of. If I see a mag with one of those stupid after-market AIR backends, I automatically skip the ad. Same goes for any number of "upgrades", like anodizing, polishing, random holes being drilled, expansion chambers, etc.

As far as resale value for old mags... One of the biggest increases for resale value that I can think of... is the fact that you can trade in your old AIR for $100 toward an X-Valve. Poof. All the AIR's alone just became worth up to $100.

Aside from that, no, I don't think that AGD releasing new stuff will increase a mag's resale. When was the last time a new CPU came out, and suddenly all the used computers out in the market jumped up in resale value? In particular, say, things like Pentium Overdrive processors. Or new hard drives. Hell, why don't you ask whether or not the advent of these faster loaders like an evlution, warp, or halo will increase the resale value of a mag? Mags have been able to fire 10-16 bps without terrible shootdown since their inception, but were throttled by their feed systems. It would be interesting to see if there was a correlation between mag resale prices vs. loader technology.

The only thing really that would cause a jump in a mag's resale value would be if the paintball community as a whole jumped up a few points on the IQ scale. Well, that and some authority out there suddenly becoming willing to offer a trade-in or buyback of the gun/parts at some price.

Until then, people will still be screwing with their guns, beating them up, buying fishy upgrades, listening to hype instead of using their brains, paying for anodizing or polishing, or otherwise not really realizing the value of the gun currently in their hands.

[GT]

Originally posted by GoatBoy
The only thing really that would cause a jump in a mag's resale value would be if the paintball community as a whole jumped up a few points on the IQ scale.

haha, thats great, I think that sums up this topic.

jb

[afrankart]

I don't think that it will increase that much. About the only markers you are going to see with the ULE Triggers are those with X-valves and some of the very latest RT Valves. Since these are the higher end guns usually, they already bring a pretty good resale. So no, I don't think that the ULE Trigger is going to help "little Jonny" get more money out of his minimag when he sells it.

[nak81783]

Yes...

I believe all the recent upgrades to Mags will make them more desirable, and therefore increase their resale value. You won't get what you paid for it, but I agree with that 60-70% comment mentioned earlier in the thread.

All the bad things I've heard people say about Mags are now resolved.

#1 Chopping - Level 10
#2 Trigger Pull - ULT
#3 Twist Lock - ULE Bodies
#4 Weight - aluminum line - X-valve, ULE bodies, etc

I never had a problem with any of these, but I must say, "Good Job!" to AGD for listening to customers and the paintball community.

I'm not so concerned about resale value (I plan on keeping my baby!), but I am curious to see if AGD's sales go up now that they've taken care of the "problems" listed above.

Nathan

[SIGSays]

yes resale difference is right here

total mag value * .75 (estimated) + $40 for the ult HAHAHA

[NASurfer]

Would the ULT change resale value? I dont think so. Its not a drastic enough of an upgrade. One thing that could change the resale value? An AGD made electro grip similar to like an e blade. Of course due to the SP dealy going on you can just fahgettabouttit.

[GatoLoco]

Most of it comes from an undeserved bad reputation. I dont know where this came from, as anything that could make a mag chop, can make a cocker chop. People are told that cockers are much better than mags, and remain closed minded. Now, I myself own an upgraded cocker (freeflow internals, scepter barrel, aka bolt, palmer lpr), and my brother owns a minimag (Intelliframe, j&j ceramic). Now, people will come up to us and gawk at my marker, and bash his! I tell them that they are crazy, and I own a cocker because I like it's feel. I then tell them that a mag and cocker are very much the same. Both can be made to never chop both mechanically (10 dollar springs for cocker, level 10 for mags) and by ace. Both are extremely consistant. Both can have wicked triggers, be it mechanical (well tuned hinge or slider for cocker, well tuned rtpro or ule trigger for mag) or electric.Both can be customized, performance wise and cosmetic. Although the cocker has the edge in this, it is no comparison for the mag in reliability, simplicity, and target profile. Although to me the cocker has a much smoother action, the mag feels a lot more solid. I tell them that between the mag and cocker, there is no clear winner. Some of them listen and are enlightend, others blow me off. Whatever, their loss for not knowing about the work of art that is the mag.

[GoatBoy]

I need to make some more polls...