How to lower paint prices?

[Animal Mother]

There was a thread on this place before.. can't find it.

In Stockton CA, the ACE hardware store sells everything at cost. The guy that runs it says it doesn't matter if he makes a profit of $10,000 or $100,000 since it's just ACE Hardware. So he runs this place "for the players" and sells everything at cost. I think he makes like a $1 profit on everything, lol. There is 1 other shop in town that sells paintball stuff, they use to rip everyone off, their prices were insane,.. when the internet came out the owner threw a fit and had to lower his prices.. now this ACE Hardware.. he's crappin' his pants, hehehe.

But yeah, Big Ball for $30, it's a wonderful place

Stockton California ACE Hardware store on Ben Holt Drive off of I-5

[Daroy99]

its called MAP. Minimum advertised price. They can only "adverstise" for what the company, i.e. pmi says. The company can yank them for advertising for below map-but they can NOT tell them what to sell there product for, after all, its a business. This happened in the go ped industry when online stores got insanely cheap. They advertised high but said"Call for cheaper prices", the prices were the same.

[nak81783]

Ok, thanks. If you get a chance, ask him if he's heard about that minimum pricing thing. Or have him ask his PMI representative. I'm curious to see what his response would be. Maybe things are different State to State. Who knows? I'm in Michigan and have never seen even crappy paint sell that low.

Oh and yes, the Worr Paint is out. That's what I've been shooting lately. I really like it. It doesn't bounce as much as PMI Prems or BigBall. It also seems to get good range, unlike some of the lightly filled balls that seem to have a "wiffle" ball effect.

Nathan


OK, that MAP thing makes sense.

[adam shannon]

yeah i meant $.25 per ball.

CO is one of the "big guys" their best interest is still higher than what it could go for.

i talked to some guys in columbus, ohio. they said there was a surplus store or general merch type store selling marbilizer for $30 a case...i didnt see it for myself, but they swear its true. anybody know this for a fact post the name and location of that store.

[adam shannon]

oh, theres a local team sponsored by worr, or a dealer that sells worr paint. they get the competition stuff for $39 a case.

[ICOM]

All i know lot of fields in NY/long island are so much, like 70 for a case and cousins 100 a case besides on BYOP its like 50

[deathstalker]

Originally posted by punkcmonkiez
it cant cost that much to pay off the machines and pay for labor or whatever other costs they have

Oh yes it can. No offense, but please take some business classes or start working for a public company and you will soon understand why products and services cost what they do.

When the company I work for sells software, we send a CD to the customer. Do you think that we're only going to sell the software for a few dollars because a blank CD costs just pennies? With your reasoning, a $0.02 CD sold for $5.00 is like a 2500% profit!!! Umm, no; people misunderstand the concept of 'profit' and think that as long as a product sells for more than the materials needed to manufacture it, a company will turn a profit. Our customers routinely spend millions of dollars purchasing and implementing our applications.

We need to pay A LOT of people (including me; I'm pretty happy with my salary and comp plan), pay for office space, advertising, lawyers (especially when we need to fight a hostile takeover), research and development, bug fixes, instructors and ALL the costs related to offering training, computers for each employee, licenses to run software on those computers, benefits for all full-time employees, coffee service, email servers, web servers, application servers, paper, pens, I'm going to stop now.

As you can see, a business must spend a lot of money just to be in business. Public companies are also responsible to shareholders and must run their business in such a way as to maximize their profit margin and minimize operating expenses.

[deathstalker]

Originally posted by Aliens-8-MyDad
its called, paintball companies know they sell it for this much and people will buy it, so why lower the price? i say boycott them... if everyone boycotted then theyd lower prices or go outta buisness





WHO'S WITH ME!?!?!

Not me! If the companies go out of business, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PLAY?!? You won't be able to buy paint. You won't be able to buy a new marker. You won't be able to buy parts for your current gear. You won't be able to buy new and improved products.

Just because YOU can't afford it doesn't mean I can't. Sounds like a great reason to stay in school, earn a degree and find a good job. You could even *GASP* start your own paintball company!

Ah, the wonders of capitalism and free enterprise...

[akscubainst]

www.dema.org). By doing this they can help each other grow, fight off government regulation and further promote the sport instead of each manufacturer / distributor / league / or other entity, going at it all alone.

Whew Ok off the soapbox now! Sorry this was so long.

DM

https://www.thescubatank.com

[Aliens-8-MyDad]

ok i dont think a week boy cott would kill the paint dealers, but i think it would persuade them to drop there overly high paint prices, i would play so much more if paint was cheaper. just casue u are rich and can pay for outrageous paint prices donest mean i and many other paintballers can. its bad when paint cost more than alot of gun upgrades... or even a mask... think about it.. it sucks. i think blaze at $30 bucks would be a optimal price and mabey hellfire for $60 but seriously hellfire for $90 is freakin crazy. i think any paint over $100 a case is totally not worth it seeing as its not reusable or anything

[GT]

Re: How to lower paint prices?

Originally posted by nak81783
How to lower paint prices?

steal it!

[Lohman446]

Dont buy a gun that shoots a billion balls a second...

Actually my opinion on paint around here (and I pay $30 to $70 a case depending on where I play) is that if I don't want to pay a field/stores price, I won't play. I have no problem making sure that the store/field can support its owner and operators - they have set the price to what they are happy with - if it is too much I have a series of options: A) - open my own field - realistic enough, I have 40 wooded acres with a creek and some good ravines - and enough room for speedball fields. B) Don't play C) Go somewhere else to play. These are my options, frankly right now I'm fine with paying the current prices at my local fields.

[LittlePaintballBoy]

Originally posted by nak81783
However, certain brands like PMI can only be sold at a minimum price...ie $42 for BigBall and $45 for PMI Premiums. If a store owner is caught selling below those prices, PMI yanks their product and doesn't let them sell anymore.

nope, i buy big ball 30 a case, same store as animal mother. btw, off topic, animal mother, if you live near stocton why dont you come to the bay area AO meet? pm me for details.

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by Tom Sparkman
Get together with a bunch of other players and buy 20 cases at a time. We do that with the local field owner and we've been getting Hellfire for $60/case, tax included. A store owner says he can get it for $55 for us but we haven't tried him yet.

Tom

I only pay $40 for a case from my field

[robertjuric]

Our field has paint for 50, 60, and 75, I forget which but the 50 stuff is usually BigBall. Anyways I agree w/ the other that this is a young sport, give it some time, and watch it grow. Like a little flower. :)