FYI: TOTALLY New INTIMIDATOR DESIGN (not just new milling pattern)

[FalconGuy016]

Why does everyone say its a spyder when the internals are so differnt.

[jinxed]

Originally posted by FalconGuy016
Why does everyone say its a spyder when the internals are so differnt.

How are they different? Have you looked inside???

A Timmy -IS- a spyder with parts "added". In fact, you could convert any blowback to a ramvalve with just a morlock, ram and LPR. In fact, thats how the Timmy started. It was originally a "bolt on" kit for a spyder.

I don't know why timmy owners get all bent out of shape.
Timmys, Spyder and Cockers are all based on the same gun: The Stacked-tube Sheridan.

It is very easy to convert a cocker to a timmy or spyder (there kits for both). They all work on the same basic principle, with the main difference being the method of "cocking" the hammer.

So who cares. The Bushy/Impy uses generic sheridan specs, while the Timmy used specific kingman spyder specs.
This does not, in any way, mean that the performance of a Timmy is anything like a Spyder.

Nick

[FalconGuy016]

Alright, I was just thinking "the timmy is not a blowback..." but now, its just a refined blowback

its just that people say spyder, and infer that the timmy sucks because of that... why?

[spydervenom]

Originally posted by tranman
How can they really call it an Intimadator if its completely new and redesigned? They really should give it a new name or something.

did you read the thread? he said it might not even be called a timmy anymore and i doubt it will. the only gun that i can think of thats been totally re-designe and kept its name was the shocker and bushmasters(i think)

[punkncat]

Bushys,Defiants,and Timmies are all from the millenium base body.You can still see it.
I am not saying these markers are spyders , but they are certainly the same lineage.REdesigned and vastly superior , but still from the same egg.

[Ov3rmind]

Originally posted by punkncat
Bushys,Defiants,and Timmies are all from the millenium base body.You can still see it.
I am not saying these markers are spyders , but they are certainly the same lineage.REdesigned and vastly superior , but still from the same egg.

I don't think Defiants are based off of the Millenium body, and I KNOW Bushys aren't. The very first run of Timmys were, but that was in the past.

[manike]

Defiants are not based off the millennium body.

The Bushmaster and Defiant are based off the extrusion from the original Promaster semi auto which was a stacked tube blowback. It was one of the first ever semi's.

The first intimidators were based off the millennium bodies, but they aren't any more. It was why the first timmy's had silver plugs at the back where the ram is. Timmy's haven't had that since the classic and rippers.

[Jack & Coke]

Hi manike,

Long time no talk... great info

BTW, which guns are you running with nowadays?

Thanks, take care

[spydervenom]

timmy bodies are still basically the same as spyder bodies with a few differences. i dont see any problem with that and i dont see any reason why anyone else should.

[jinxed]

Originally posted by manike
Defiants are not based off the millennium body.

The Bushmaster and Defiant are based off the extrusion from the original Promaster semi auto which was a stacked tube blowback. It was one of the first ever semi's.

Ya, but the spyder is a NEAR EXACT copy of the promaster.

Again, I guess it doesnt really matter.
The Cocker is obviously based on the Sniper, which was originally based on the PGP. (even using some PGP parts). There even used to be a sniper-style upgrade kit for the PGP.
So, the cocker is definetly based on the PGP, but performance is completely different.

So, people will say "timmy is based on a spyder" to be an insult, but it only shows a general ignorance of technology.

Just ignore them.

Nick

[punkncat]

To say that a Timmy is based on the same principal as a Spyder is in no way an insult.Its a fact.
All stacked tube blowback markers work generally the same.Just different ways of supplying the air to "blow back" the hammer again.
Just because the "electros" use a ram/solenoid to achieve the same job as the vented valve doesn't mean the principal isn't the same.
The major advantage being that it becomes possible to delay the bolt coming forward thru the electronics that control the solenoid and/or a lower pressure required to bring the hammer forward in the first place , thus reducing or eliminating chops.

I am really sorry that it hurts some peoples feelings that they own a fancy stacked tube marker , that shares much in common with a much cheaper stacked tube......

I mean lets really face it.Just about the only marker that works on a significantly different principal is the Automag.I am sure there are others but thats all that comes to mind right now.